Beating the dead horse...generic hgh The provider aka Riptropin

**redz** · 09-15-2019, 10:04 AM

I’ve used riptropin before but didn’t really have that much of it and wasn’t really training at the time. What’s the verdict here on this guy? The second question is what the hell is dimer?

**HoldMyBeer** · 09-15-2019, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by redz

I’ve used riptropin before but didn’t really have that much of it and wasn’t really training at the time. What’s the verdict here on this guy? The second question is what the hell is dimer?

Lol, if you want to hear about dimer, and the provider, a listener asked a question I am pretty sure is about TP on muscle minds episode 70 I believe it was
Dimer is 2 HGH molecules bonded together if I remember correctly. He gets into some interesting stuff about how dimer isn't a problem, and may be actually used by your body, but you could also develope an immune response to HGH (even pharma) and it won't work at all for you. Good stuff

**Windex** · 09-15-2019, 02:39 PM

Remind me how old you are? If you are still in the GTA send me a PM.

**redz** · 09-15-2019, 03:39 PM

I’m 36 pm sent

**kaptainkeezy04** · 09-18-2019, 07:33 PM

Given how much under-dosed and dirty UGL steroids there are in the market, which is much easier to make than HGH, I can't imagine injecting any non pharma HGH in my body. I know this post is beating a dead horse, but...I feel like it should be said.

**redz** · 09-19-2019, 04:43 PM

I’ve only come across a problem with ugl gear one time in 13 plus years. I’d like to hear from other users of the providers hgh. I know there is more people from this forum using the product.

**HoldMyBeer** · 09-20-2019, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by redz

I’ve only come across a problem with ugl gear one time in 13 plus years. I’d like to hear from other users of the providers hgh. I know there is more people from this forum using the product.

I have seen a lot of BW from them and reviews (but the board was iffy), but their response time is questionable even just asking for a list. And their prices were hard to believe. Some of their stuff was like 90/kit (going off memory). Apparently profit margins are very tight at 180/kit for all other sources, so idk how they can do 12+iu kit at half that price (I think we are allowed to post prices, it's contact info that's not allowed). Something seems off. I would like to hear some feedback as well from a reputable member too, but I don't think too many people actually run GH around here.

**redz** · 09-20-2019, 11:47 AM

I may just roll the dice in the near future. Still looking for users that actually tried it more recently.

**956Vette** · 09-20-2019, 12:51 PM

TP is legit

**xxblazenlowxx** · 09-22-2019, 02:09 PM

I almost went with TP but went with HK instead.

Prices are the same but communication was better with hk and and he has been around for ever.

I used black tops and grey, i also had blood work before and after.

**Ashop** · 09-22-2019, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by 956Vette

TP is legit

I don't vouch for many people but this guy's HGH is top notch.

**jstone** · 09-22-2019, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

Given how much under-dosed and dirty UGL steroids there are in the market, which is much easier to make than HGH, I can't imagine injecting any non pharma HGH in my body. I know this post is beating a dead horse, but...I feel like it should be said.

Your information is outdated by many years. There are plenty of generic hgh products testing 98% pure with virtually no dimmer content. There are plenty of generics out there that test out to be pharmaceutical grade. These products are readily available, and affordable.

OP TPs products are great, and he is pretty much a guaranteed source at this point. His T/A is a little slow and he doesn't hold your hand through the process, but your product will arrive. The greytops are some of the best GH out there, but all of them are great I have used greys, blacks, and mauves. When you receive his list it will have the most recent testing available in his auto reply.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 09-23-2019, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by jstone

Your information is outdated by many years. There are plenty of generic hgh products testing 98% pure with virtually no dimmer content. There are plenty of generics out there that test out to be pharmaceutical grade. These products are readily available, and affordable.

OP TPs products are great, and he is pretty much a guaranteed source at this point. His T/A is a little slow and he doesn't hold your hand through the process, but your product will arrive. The greytops are some of the best GH out there, but all of them are great I have used greys, blacks, and mauves. When you receive his list it will have the most recent testing available in his auto reply.

So, why does he have so many different colored tops? lol

If his stuff is the real deal at least get it shipped to you and stock up in the colder parts of the year. If you get it shipped to you during the summer, I know it's not coming over from China with ice packs and is probably losing a ton of potency to heat exposure.

I've been using Serostim because you can scan the barcode with EMD Serono's phone app to verify it's authenticity.

**HoldMyBeer** · 09-23-2019, 04:31 AM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

So, why does he have so many different colored tops? lol

If his stuff is the real deal at least get it shipped to you and stock up in the colder parts of the year. If you get it shipped to you during the summer, I know it's not coming over from China with ice packs and is probably losing a ton of potency to heat exposure.

I've been using Serostim because you can scan the barcode with EMD Serono's phone app to verify it's authenticity.

It's just a way of separating different batch purity, how many IU per vial, etc
A lot of people focus on dimmer, where that's not the problem. Dimmer is 2 HGH molecules that fused together and your body might still be able to use them. So people think .04% dimmer is good, but who cares. If it's 98% pure, w 0.04% dimmer, what's the other 1.96%?

**jstone** · 09-23-2019, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

So, why does he have so many different colored tops? lol

If his stuff is the real deal at least get it shipped to you and stock up in the colder parts of the year. If you get it shipped to you during the summer, I know it's not coming over from China with ice packs and is probably losing a ton of potency to heat exposure.

I've been using Serostim because you can scan the barcode with EMD Serono's phone app to verify it's authenticity.

If you can afford serostim that's great, it's just out of my budget. TP actually only has two products the greytops, and meditropes. The different color of the meditrope tops just let you know how many iu per vial, and slight differences in purity. I dont think I have seen one test under 97% purity.

Hgh in its lypholyzed form actually will not degrade in the short time it takes to ship. Hgh has been tested after months of storage in unfavourable conditions with no degradation. Hgh is very fragile once reconstituted, but until then it's very stable.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 09-24-2019, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by jstone

If you can afford serostim that's great, it's just out of my budget. TP actually only has two products the greytops, and meditropes. The different color of the meditrope tops just let you know how many iu per vial, and slight differences in purity. I dont think I have seen one test under 97% purity.

Hgh in its lypholyzed form actually will not degrade in the short time it takes to ship. Hgh has been tested after months of storage in unfavourable conditions with no degradation. Hgh is very fragile once reconstituted, but until then it's very stable.

What does 97% purity mean? That there's 3% BS floating around in that vial? When hgh in reconstituted it becomes much more fragile, and I would worry about what the 3% unknown could do to contaminate the pure HGH in the vial.

**GearHeaded** · 09-24-2019, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

What does 97% purity mean? That there's 3% BS floating around in that vial? When hgh in reconstituted it becomes much more fragile, and I would worry about what the 3% unknown could do to contaminate the pure HGH in the vial.

the other concern, when HGH is not 99+% pure is that there is a much greater chance that your immune system is going to build up anti bodies and destroy ALL the hgh your taking in the first place..

take 6iu per day of 97% pure HGH , and it can all go to waste because your immune system will just destroy it.

this is why some guys can swear by and get good results from generics, and other guys can take the exact same generic and not get shit out of it , their body happens to be the one that builds anti bodies and destroys it.
talk about a total waste of $ .

a much better chance your immune system will not destroy the HGH if its pharma grade 99% pure . and even then there is no guarantee, there are genetic non responders to HGH even when administered under a doctors care

**Judgeno1** · 09-24-2019, 05:33 PM

Been on TPs stuff for approx 1 year, used others but will never use anyone else if possible.

Had bloods done igf 1 level 397 on 6 ius on hgh a day. No hgh antibodies present.

Once you learn how to communicate with TP it had been spot on time everytime for a year or more.

Dimmer, hgh content that is a protein but not active hgh. Not quite same as impurity. There was a write up on it on another board that is off line at the moment.

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**HoldMyBeer** · 09-25-2019, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Judgeno1

Been on TPs stuff for approx 1 year, used others but will never use anyone else if possible.

Had bloods done igf 1 level 397 on 6 ius on hgh a day. No hgh antibodies present.

Once you learn how to communicate with TP it had been spot on time everytime for a year or more.

Dimmer, hgh content that is a protein but not active hgh. Not quite same as impurity. There was a write up on it on another board that is off line at the moment.

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Thats interesting, how did you get tested for having HGH antibodies?

**Judgeno1** · 09-25-2019, 04:21 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

Thats interesting, how did you get tested for having HGH antibodies?

I asked my primary care who is also internal medicine to test everything, 13 viles if blood. IGF, HGH, EST, TEST, T4, full metabolic panel everything.

I was little concerned about the anti body effect from being on moderate dose for a year straight, but was good to go

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**HoldMyBeer** · 09-25-2019, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Judgeno1

I asked my primary care who is also internal medicine to test everything, 13 viles if blood. IGF, HGH, EST, TEST, T4, full metabolic panel everything.

I was little concerned about the anti body effect from being on moderate dose for a year straight, but was good to go

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But you said there were no antibodies present, how did you test for that? None of those tests do that. Maybe you misspoke or I misinterpreted?

**Judgeno1** · 09-25-2019, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

But you said there were no antibodies present, how did you test for that? None of those tests do that. Maybe you misspoke or I misinterpreted?

No i asked my Dr to test everything, one of the test said : hgh antibioties present, negative result.

I asked her to test hgh, igf etc. That is one of the test they did while testing for hgh and igf hormone levels. That's all i can say i ask to test everything, this was one of the test. I didn't request a test for hgh antibodies being present, that is what the Dr ordered based on my request.

Hope that makes more sense.

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**HoldMyBeer** · 09-25-2019, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Judgeno1

No i asked my Dr to test everything, one of the test said : hgh antibioties present, negative result.

I asked her to test hgh, igf etc. That is one of the test they did while testing for hgh and igf hormone levels. That's all i can say i ask to test everything, this was one of the test. I didn't request a test for hgh antibodies being present, that is what the Dr ordered based on my request.

Hope that makes more sense.

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It does.
Did the doc give you shit about the results? Mine does even hinting at what I want to test for

**Judgeno1** · 09-25-2019, 09:41 AM

No l got the results about 10 days after, we'll see what happens when i go back.

My levels for bp were out of whack, kidney levels too high from being on orals for too long. So I've made the adjustments, lowered bp and got down to trt doses and no more orals so hopefully follow up goes well.

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**jstone** · 09-27-2019, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

What does 97% purity mean? That there's 3% BS floating around in that vial? When hgh in reconstituted it becomes much more fragile, and I would worry about what the 3% unknown could do to contaminate the pure HGH in the vial.

Serostim like all forms of GH aren't 100% pure. Just like raws need to meet a certain standard to be pharmaceutical, GH is the same. I'm not going to pretend to know what that small percentage of impurities is, but your getting them even with serostim. 97% pure is the lowest I have seen for TP products. They usually are 98-99% from the batches i have seen.

It has been a long time since I looked into it, but IIRC purity standards for rHGH is 98% and above. So just like with anything else just because its pharmaceutical doesnt mean its 100% pure and dosed to exactly what the label claims. There is some wiggle room where products can be within a certain percentage range for purity, and dose.

**Bluelabel** · 02-06-2020, 12:15 AM

I've never taken HGH b4, but I planned on going w. provider. Provided the dimer is NOT a big deal that is., Those that have years under their belt can you gift me with some knowledge... Is the dimer a big deal... I see his numbers getting closer to 1 his mg go upper ki. Is it that Important, like enough to worry about it I mean? his juice and labs are posted HIGH even with items such as primo.. which was surprising...

**Bluelabel** · 02-06-2020, 12:19 AM

Is there a forum maybe even this one... Where you're able to Look at all labs and information that has been collecte3d over the years if you reach a certain point? SO it not just a 1 and BS done Test.

<> If you beat the dead horse ^^^^ I definitely killed it ..apologies.

**SlammiN** · 02-06-2020, 07:18 AM

Anyone tried GenX-Tropin? seems to be around here in the UK, got some, I used a blood glucose meter and tested and 2.5iu dropped my levels by quite a bit in first hour, dunno if that means its real or not of course. It mixed with the bac water poorly initially, similar like legit brands HGH does.

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**Judgeno1** · 03-01-2020, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by Bluelabel

I've never taken HGH b4, but I planned on going w. provider. Provided the dimer is NOT a big deal that is., Those that have years under their belt can you gift me with some knowledge... Is the dimer a big deal... I see his numbers getting closer to 1 his mg go upper ki. Is it that Important, like enough to worry about it I mean? his juice and labs are posted HIGH even with items such as primo.. which was surprising...

The lower the dimmer the better, if i remember correctly dimmer is amino acids content that is not usuable hgh. It's not impurity's but it's also not usable amino acids sequence. If been using providers HGH for 2 years. I will always as long as he's around. I've had my igf1 tested and very happy with results.

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