UGL lab Busted: Who Cares?

**Steroidtimes** · 12-29-2010, 03:38 PM

UGL Busted: Who Cares?

http://www.steroidtimes.com

**Steroidtimes** · 12-29-2010, 04:25 PM

OK, error with the link due to the lab name being in there...will see if we can get this fixed. For those that care to know the story, simply go to steroidtimes.com

**Far from massive** · 12-29-2010, 05:15 PM

This is just my personal opinion and I am reluctant to voice it as I do enjoy this board and appreciate all the information and help I have received.

That said the habit of bad mouthing others on both this board as well as its affiliates ( it is my understanding that Steroid .com is an affiliate of sorts) in my opinion is beneath those associated with this board and of the board itself. I find that the no flame policy enforced on the boards here is a good one and its a shame that the board does not hold itself to the same standards, particularly when it comes to making light of someones loss of livelyhood and the possible legal problems that could follow. While I certainly feel that *****labs whole speal about safe lab practice was nonsense and that puttin Dr Ann Abolic or whatever his name was on youtube was just asking for trouble I still can not understand making light of their demise.

Just my 2 cents.

FFM

**stevey_6t9** · 12-29-2010, 08:17 PM

link doesn't work....

ban him!

**Steroidtimes** · 12-29-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

This is just my personal opinion and I am reluctant to voice it as I do enjoy this board and appreciate all the information and help I have received.

That said the habit of bad mouthing others on both this board as well as its affiliates ( it is my understanding that Steroid .com is an affiliate of sorts) in my opinion is beneath those associated with this board and of the board itself. I find that the no flame policy enforced on the boards here is a good one and its a shame that the board does not hold itself to the same standards, particularly when it comes to making light of someones loss of livelyhood and the possible legal problems that could follow. While I certainly feel that blankiolabs whole speal about safe lab practice was nonsense and that puttin Dr Ann Abolic or whatever his name was on youtube was just asking for trouble I still can not understand making light of their demise.

Just my 2 cents.

FFM

It wasn't meant to make light of the legal troubles of those guys...that's a horrible situation to be in and it happens to a lot of good guys...yes, there are good guys who get mixed up on the wrong end of the stick when it comes to this topic.

The whole point of the article, that particular brand has touted itself for a few years as the king-ding-dong of gear and there has been a lot of crying on a lot of boards about their bust. I find the crying to be misguided and simply addressed it.

**Bonaparte** · 12-29-2010, 11:45 PM

So...please explain how half of their oils were "half water", because that doesn't make any sense. Are you just saying that they were underdosed by 50%, or that they were (for God-knows what reason) using a surfactant and actually blending oil and water together...
I don't care one way or the other since I don't buy finished gear, but that claim sounds like a crock of shit.

**Steroidtimes** · 12-30-2010, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

So...please explain how half of their oils were "half water", because that doesn't make any sense. Are you just saying that they were underdosed by 50%, or that they were (for God-knows what reason) using a surfactant and actually blending oil and water together...
I don't care one way or the other since I don't buy finished gear, but that claim sounds like a crock of shit.

Llewellyn’s claim was that the gear was a mixture of 50% oil and 50% water. Basically meaning that water as used as a filler.

**stack_it** · 12-30-2010, 01:12 AM

I understand you're saying it's Llewelyns claim but wouldn't water and oil separate? I know it does with most oils.

***Admin*** · 12-30-2010, 01:28 AM

We do not post UGL names on this board... sorry for the inconvenience...

**ADO** · 12-30-2010, 02:22 AM

ya i dont get the water/oil thing, but i used that lab for my first cycle which was not a good thing! i ended up in the emergency room(dirty gear). on top of that, one of the vials only had 7ml! (it was a ten ml vial) wtf how do you miss it by that much?! they suck! but i know a guy that loves them.

**Bonaparte** · 12-30-2010, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by Steroidtimes.com

Llewellyn’s claim was that the gear was a mixture of 50% oil and 50% water. Basically meaning that water as used as a filler.

That is absurd. Llewellyn's lab must have confused EO for water somehow. Anyone who knows anything about making gear will realize why this is practically impossible.

Oil and water do not mix. It may be possible to some degree if you used a surfactant (polysorbate 80), but what's the point? It would be so much cheaper and easier to just use regular carriers (oil/EO) and underdose the active hormone like every other shitty lab does.

Oh, and even a drop of condensation in a brew will turn it cloudy and often cause it to crash, so it just isn't possible that someone was adding water to their gear.