simple question

[x_moe]

I tried searching but I didnt find exactly what I want. I wanna start a cycle in 3 days or 4, I have 15 vial of Testosterone Enanthate 250mgs/ml and 15 vial of Deca -Derabolin 50mg/ml. Now I dont know if I should take both Clomid and Nolvadex and when. Can someone one please help me with this. Thanks.

[Kale]

OK lets get a few facts straight first. Give us your age , weight, cycle experience and workout experience then we can give you some advice

[stocky121]

OK lets get a few facts straight first. Give us your age , weight, cycle experience and workout experience then we can give you some advice

agreed

also it would be nice to know the intended cycle

[x_moe]

im 21 yrs old, I weight 180 lb. 4 yrs of working out, but I have stoped for months coz i was under medication treatment then i started again 2 weeks ago. I have done a cylce a year and a half ago before, wish i didnt coz who gave it to me never mentioned or probably knew anything about PCT after a cycle, o well, my doctor took care of me after. but this time I wanna know what i should take so i can avoid going to the doctor again. and im planning to finish what i have in 4 or 5 weeks

[Kale]

im 21 yrs old, I weight 180 lb. 4 yrs of working out, but I have stoped for months coz i was under medication treatment then i started again 2 weeks ago. I have done a cylce a year and a half ago before, wish i didnt coz who gave it to me never mentioned or probably knew anything about PCT after a cycle, o well, my doctor took care of me after. but this time I wanna know what i should take so i can avoid going to the doctor again. and im planning to finish what i have in 4 or 5 weeks

What does this mean ? Are you on cycle now ? or you plan on starting in 4-5 weeks with what you have ?

[x_moe]

no i wanna start the cycle someday this week and finish it in 5 weeks after i start. so that would be 150mg of deca a week and 750mg of test. enanthate a week. is this fine ?

[x_moe]

is this the pct i should run ?

21 days after last shot

Clomid:
Weeks 1-2: 100mg per/day
Weeks 3-4: 50mg

Nolvadex :
Weeks 1-2: 40mg
Weeks 3-6: 20mg

p.s Im ending the deca and test ent. together

[stocky121]

no i wanna start the cycle someday this week and finish it in 5 weeks after i start. so that would be 150mg of deca a week and 750mg of test. enanthate a week. is this fine ?

what you want to run deca and test e for 5 week's ??


come on bro do some research

[x_moe]

what you want to run deca and test e for 5 week's ??


come on bro do some research

why whats wrong with that ?! pls dont tell me i have to run for atleast 12 weeks or something like that...


what would you do if you were me,, with 20 vials of deca and 20 of test. enth.

[taiotosh7]

why whats wrong with that ?! pls dont tell me i have to run for atleast 12 weeks or something like that...


what would you do if you were me,, with 20 vials of deca and 20 of test. enth.

K I'll tell you then.....Run test e and decca for 12 weeks. The decanote ant ethanate ester are very slow and long lasting esters, you'll need time for them to become active and time for you body to grow

[stocky121]

why whats wrong with that ?! pls dont tell me i have to run for atleast 12 weeks or something like that...


what would you do if you were me,, with 20 vials of deca and 20 of test. enth.

yeah that's what iam saying


what is your gear dosed at ??? how meny mg per ml

[x_moe]

i see, well wut i have is enough or im gona have to get more ?

[x_moe]

deca is 50mg per ml and test. is 250mg per ml

[taiotosh7]

you say you have 20 vials of both? are you sure they're not ampules? Amps are for single use and come in a little glass bottle similar to what stink bombs come in, vials are for mulit use that usually come in 10 or 20mls

[x_moe]

if there is also anything else other than clomid and nolva that i should be taking then pls let me know.. coz im not starting my cycle untill i have wuts planned for me

[x_moe]

you say you have 20 vials of both? are you sure they're not ampules? Amps are for single use and come in a little glass bottle similar to what stink bombs come in, vials are for mulit use that usually come in 10 or 20mls

ya theyr ampules,, my bad

[x_moe]

what do you guys think of adding dianabol and/or Anavar to the cycle

[stocky121]

what do you guys think of adding dianabol and/or Anavar to the cycle

cycle experiance please and stat's ???

you dont have enough deca why add another compound when you dont have enough of deca you just have enough test.

[x_moe]

cycle experiance please and stat's ???

you dont have enough deca why add another compound when you dont have enough of deca you just have enough test.

i can get as much deca as i want,, wut about my cycle experience ? ive done a cycle a year ago and that was it, i dont know what you mean by stat's

[stocky121]

i can get as much deca as i want,, wut about my cycle experience ? ive done a cycle a year ago and that was it, i dont know what you mean by stat's

what kind of gear did you run on your last cycle ?

and stats = height, weight, body fat, age

[x_moe]

what kind of gear did you run on your last cycle ?

and stats = height, weight, body fat, age

Testosterone -Propionate , Winstrol and Dianabol .

im 5"8, 180 lb, 10% fat, 21 yrs old



- why do some ppl take nolvadex during the cycle and some take em after the cycle ?? does it matter ?

[stocky121]

Testosterone -Propionate , Winstrol and Dianabol .

im 5"8, 180 lb, 10% fat, 21 yrs old



- why do some ppl take nolvadex during the cycle and some take em after the cycle ?? does it matter ?

ok what was the cycle lay out???
lay it out like this EG

week 1- 10 test prop 75mg ed
week 1-4 dboll 35mg ed
week 6-10 winny 50mg ed



some people take during cycle so that thay dont get gyno or most estrogen related side affects

and most take it after to help get there natural test going again and help stop an estrogen rebound

[x_moe]

ok what was the cycle lay out???
lay it out like this EG

week 1- 10 test prop 75mg ed
week 1-4 dboll 35mg ed
week 6-10 winny 50mg ed

week 1- 7 test prop
week 1-3 dianabol 30mg ed
week 2-7 winstrol

i dont really remember how much mg of test and win. i took at that time sorry.

some people take during cycle so that thay dont get gyno or most estrogen related side affects

and most take it after to help get there natural test going again and help stop an estrogen rebound

so when whould i take it!? i was surfing the net for cycle programs, and i found one with exactly wut i have now, test enath./deca .. it says take Arimidex during the cycle and thats it.....but should i just take nolva during my cycle till 2 weeks after the end of my cycle, then clomid after 2 weeks of my last shot. should i just do that ?!

[bigbrad2985]

i wouldn't run the deca at that dose...too many injections to get the mg you need imo...just run test at 750 mg/wk for at least 10 weeks and kick start with 40-50 mg of dbol for the first 4-6 weeks that will be a kiler cycle. thats a good base to any bulker & if u want u could add something else but if u want deca get some that is at least 200mg/ml

[s14358g]

I would also throw in a low dose of winny throughout (25mg) or at least 50mg wks 7 - 12. Winny will bring more out of the test.

[x_moe]

if i did this it'll be 4 kinds of hormones during the cycle... how would i run pct for that ?