PCT for tren

**daveywave** · 06-08-2006, 09:34 AM

This is my third tren -only cycle. It's middle of week seven and i haven't made much progress since week 5, ver disappointing. I attempted to add prop in the beginning, but I've come to the conclusion i'm allergic to test esters, or the shitty oil i've come across in experimenting with what may work in my body. (5 different test esters and brands ranging from enan/cyp and prop)

Anyway I never had a hard time recovering from tren in the past, never had any progesterone gyno or any other side effects i could really notice, besides skin issues. Which led me to get some clom and nolva.

Having made little to no progress in the last couple of weeks, I believe my test production has been cut pretty rough, and is causing a problem with this cycle. I need to know if i can start taking some nolva and/or clom NOW to get natural test production going again... while i'm still on my last week or two on cycle. I'd be taking this stuff for the remainder of the cycle and 3-4 weeks after.

If this is alright to do, and recommended, what dosages should i be looking at with this stuff, more importantly the clomid, should i run it with 100mg or more daily until i actually finish the cycle? What do you guys think?

***BajanBastard*** · 06-08-2006, 10:27 AM

Don't take nolva or clomid with tren you may increase the chance of getting gyno from the tren. Beside it's impossible to recover any endogenous testosterone production with tren and its metabolites still floating around. Stop the cycle and ride it out for 2-3 weeks (you're using the acetate) and start PCT with aromasin and nolva.

**stocky121** · 06-08-2006, 10:29 AM

if your going to run nolva it will do more bad than good IMO because it's progestrain not estrogen where dealing with.

if it was me i would get some test prop run a low dose of this 50mg per day and come off the tren run the test prop for a few week's then start PCT

**daveywave** · 06-08-2006, 04:58 PM

I wish i could use some prop, i had a whole stash i needed to get rid of because i wasn't reacting well at all. No nolva at all then? I know it wont cope with progesterone but help with bringing natural test production back. Aromasin ? What exactly will that do that clomid cannot?

thanks guys

**daveywave** · 06-09-2006, 10:19 AM

bump

**daveywave** · 06-09-2006, 07:46 PM

forget talking about PCT while ON

I need to know what i should take when i'm OFF cycle now and at what dosage.

clom, ...?

**Lavinco** · 06-09-2006, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by big k.l.g

Don't take nolva or clomid with tren you may increase the chance of getting gyno from the tren. Beside it's impossible to recover any endogenous testosterone production with tren and its metabolites still floating around. Stop the cycle and ride it out for 2-3 weeks (you're using the acetate) and start PCT with aromasin and nolva.

Is this true with letro?

Couldn't he run letro alongside tren ?

**stocky121** · 06-10-2006, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by daveywave

forget talking about PCT while ON

I need to know what i should take when i'm OFF cycle now and at what dosage.

clom, ...?

do what big klg said and ride out for a couple of weeks if you dont want to go the test route. And do a pct of nolva and aromasin

**stocky121** · 06-10-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Lavinco

Is this true with letro?

Couldn't he run letro alongside tren?

letro is fine

letro is an AI not a serm

**daveywave** · 06-10-2006, 11:38 AM

ok, so no clomid?

***BajanBastard*** · 06-10-2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Lavinco

Is this true with letro?

Couldn't he run letro alongside tren?

Actually Letro does the total opposite.

**daveywave** · 06-11-2006, 04:00 AM

hmmm

**Daddy Fatsacks** · 06-11-2006, 09:18 PM

hey big k,

what would be the sufficient amount of nolva and aromisin? Also how long should i take each?

**Daddy Fatsacks** · 06-11-2006, 09:21 PM

i just read an interesting thread by pinn. he suggested the nolva and aromasin , except he added hcg and vitamin e. to the mix.

i'm having a hard time locating the hcg for a reasonable price, so i figured i'd try to find a cheaper way out.