pct help please.

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 05:16 PM

I was stupid and ran first cycle without pct. I came across this forum and thought it would be the smart thing to do! first cycle ended 4 months ago ad kept some of my gains but hope for better results this time around. plan on running test e with deca for 12 weeks. 500 mg test and 200 mg deca a week. have clomid on hand wondering if it is enough and when to take?

**Johny-too-small** · 01-08-2007, 05:36 PM

What was your first cycle? What are your stats? Why only 200 mg of deca for your second cycle?

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 05:42 PM

1st cycle was test c and d-bol 500 mg and 30 mg for 12 wks. Im 37 yrs old 5-8 147 lbs with 10%bf. kept 12 lbs from first cycle. new to this and just trying to do it right. was told i could go with low doses because of my size?

**Johny-too-small** · 01-08-2007, 05:48 PM

Bro, not to flame you, but at 147lbs you shouldnt be doing aas. You need to learn how to eat!!!
Try to get your diet worked out and then you'll really start getting the results you want. Good luck.

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 05:51 PM

thanks, but have tried that all my life. always have been able to eat like a horse! thanks for the reply just lookin for some info since i already plan to run a second cycle.

**Anaboxa34** · 01-08-2007, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by Zipper

I was stupid and ran first cycle without pct. I came across this forum and thought it would be the smart thing to do! first cycle ended 4 months ago ad kept some of my gains but hope for better results this time around. plan on running test e with deca for 12 weeks. 500 mg test and 200 mg deca a week. have clomid on hand wondering if it is enough and when to take?

Did you run the dbol for the entire 12 weeks? It would be a good idea to get your bloodwork done as well before you start another cycle just to make sure everything is working properly. check out this link for bloodwork...

ALL you need to know about bloodwork

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 05:57 PM

no i ran the d-bol f0r 6 weeks cuz thats all i could get. no real side effects to mention and recovered pretty quick.

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 06:01 PM

guess nobody wants to help today?

**Anaboxa34** · 01-08-2007, 06:33 PM

I've run sus250 and deca in the past with only clomid and recovered fine. If i were you i would run the test one week longer then the deca here's why....
with deca you want to start pct 21 day (3 weeks) after last injection, and with test e you want to pct two weeks after last injection. So take your last test e injection exactly one week after the deca and then start your pct exactly two weeks from the day of your last test shot...follow?
If i were going to run this pct i would do 300mg on day 1 then 100mg ed for 2weeks then 50mg ed for another two weeks (remember this is all starting two weeks after last test e inj.) This is just how i would run this pct. I would strongly recomend reading the pct stickies at the top of this forum. Good luck man.

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 06:40 PM

Thanks for your help! I appreciate it. does the dose of deca seem right?

**ftony** · 01-08-2007, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Zipper

Thanks for your help! I appreciate it. does the dose of deca seem right?

from what i have read you want to run twice the dose of test as the deca to avoid some deca sides (deca dik)and also you dont want to run dbol for more than 6 weeks.

**Anaboxa34** · 01-08-2007, 07:47 PM

I would use 400 mg of deca since its your second cycle, but do some more research on dosing twice the test. 800mg test/week seems too much. I think you would be fine running deca at 400mg and test e at 500 mg, but do some more research just to be sure. However i did run deca at 200 mg/week with sus250 and had great results for my second cycle. good luck bro

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 08:08 PM

i planned on 500 mg of test and 200 mg deca a week. had a question if i should take them the same day, and if so should i mix them. thanx for your feedback.

**Anaboxa34** · 01-08-2007, 09:39 PM

I dont know about mixing them but i'd do something like test mon test &deca thurs. but because they have the long esters i dont think it will really matter.

**Zipper** · 01-08-2007, 09:45 PM

thanks bro. think i'll go that route. thought it would be a pain to mix them anyways!

**Big_Red_1984** · 01-10-2007, 11:32 AM

Hi guys..
Can anyone help me out ? heres my second cycle
Deca 200mg p/w w1-8
Sust 250 500mg p/w w1-9
Dbol 40mg p/d w1-5

I was thinking Clomid 300mg day 1, 200mg day 2-14, and 50mg day 15-30 is this any good?
oh yeah, my stats are
Hieght 6'5", weight 92kg/202lbs, 23yrs been training for 2 and a half years
Thanks

**Johny-too-small** · 01-10-2007, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Big_Red_1984

Hi guys..
Can anyone help me out ? heres my second cycle
Deca 200mg p/w w1-8
Sust 250 500mg p/w w1-9
Dbol 40mg p/d w1-5

I was thinking Clomid 300mg day 1, 200mg day 2-14, and 50mg day 15-30 is this any good?
oh yeah, my stats are
Hieght 6'5", weight 92kg/202lbs, 23yrs been training for 2 and a half years
Thanks

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