Newbie PCT

**Dirty Lou** · 11-12-2008, 11:11 PM

Newbie here!
Need some PCT advice.
Just got off a 16 week cycle.
First Deca and Test. 1 cc Each of 300.
Then at the end of that add on a Stack of Mastron, Fina, test.
10 cc Winstro and Clenbuterol .
I stoped about 2 weeks ago.
I dont have much Testecular Shrinkage. My sex drive is down a little. And i do wake up ever so often with an erection.
i was planning on taking HCG . Should i take this or not? Do i need something else.
But after findind this site i decided to ask the experts.
Also im thinknig off doing another cycle starting March is this to soon?
Or should I wait how long to be safe.

Thank you all for your help.

**Kale** · 11-12-2008, 11:14 PM

I presume you have never heard of PCT dude. Read this the unofficial how to do pct thread

**Dirty Lou** · 11-14-2008, 05:30 PM

Kale thanks for the info. I read it but not sure on what to do yet.
I have HCG and took 1cc today now can anyone help with what else i need to take and how to take the HCG.
Thanks for the help.

**WARMachine** · 11-14-2008, 05:54 PM

hCG is in IU's not MLs.

You need A SERM and an AI in your PCT.

**Dirty Lou** · 11-14-2008, 06:16 PM

Thanks war 4btt.
I think i took the HCG wrong i took 1cc. I think I took to much. Is this dangers?
Im just getting so much info from every were that im losing it but i think im just going to follow what you guys have to say.
Do i take the SERM an AI at the same time as the HCG.
Ill take my next HCG with an insulin .

**WARMachine** · 11-14-2008, 06:21 PM

Youre suppossed to take your hCG with a insulin syringe yes.

Dont take insulin with it though...

When did you stop your cycle? I mean what day?

And do you have Nolva, Clomid and Aromasin ?

And if not, can you get them ASAP?

**Dirty Lou** · 11-16-2008, 01:21 PM

Thanks for the reply warbtt.
I stopped my cycle about Oct 28.
Yes i can get them.
How should I be taking the HCG .
and how much Clomid and Aromasin do i need.

**LATS60** · 11-16-2008, 03:40 PM

Start PCT.
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50.

**Flex-Appeal** · 11-16-2008, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by LATS60

Start PCT.
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50.

I think that first dose of 100mg clomid is over kill. I thought you would agree to go a bit lower than that with same results.

**Flex-Appeal** · 11-16-2008, 09:04 PM

It's not like he ran some serious ass cycle Lats, i think 50mg tops on clomid is more than enough to suite him.

**Big** · 11-16-2008, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal

It's not like he ran some serious ass cycle Lats, i think 50mg tops on clomid is more than enough to suite him.

well he ran deca , tren , mast, and test, so it's a pretty serious cycle.
I'd run it as lats suggested.

**Big** · 11-16-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dirty Lou

Thanks war 4btt.
I think i took the HCG wrong i took 1cc. I think I took to much. Is this dangers?

we have no way of knowing how it was constituted. 1 cc could be 500iu or 5000iu, etc.

**Flex-Appeal** · 11-16-2008, 09:18 PM

I personally would add HCG to cycle, which he did not mention and run the clomid no higher than 70-80mg's.
I don't get it, he has no clue about pct but he is running tren and deca togther.
I just feel that if we advise him a lower dose of clomid, he might not come back on the board making threads about all the terrible sides he is having from the clomid that we advised.

**Big** · 11-16-2008, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal

I personally would add HCG to cycle, which he did not mention and run the clomid no higher than 70-80mg's.
I don't get it, he has no clue about pct but he is running tren and deca togther.
I just feel that if we advise him a lower dose of clomid, he might not come back on the board making threads about all the terrible sides he is having from the clomid that we advised.

Back when I used to use pct I ran clomid at 300mg/day 1 of pct, 100mg/day2-15, 50mg/day16-28. (nolva 40/40/20/20) kind of old school but it worked well for me and no clomid sides. everyone is different though.

**Flex-Appeal** · 11-16-2008, 09:26 PM

I hear ya Big, your are deff right on all of us being different. To each his own of course. I suppose since he is new to pct, this can be his crash course to find out what works best for him. Let him go for 100mg's then...time will tell

**Flex-Appeal** · 11-16-2008, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by Big

Back when I used to use pct I ran clomid at 300mg/day 1 of pct, 100mg/day2-15, 50mg/day16-28. (nolva 40/40/20/20) kind of old school but it worked well for me and no clomid sides. everyone is different though.

P.S you must be sEnile with your old school dose of 300mg clomid

Just nice i haven't seen you advise this to these people

**Big** · 11-16-2008, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal

P.S you must be sEnile with your old school dose of 300mg clomid

Just nice i haven't seen you advise this to these people

you would be surprised how many people used to run it like that, but that was back in the day. hell back then I didn't know what HCG was, times have changed for the better.

**Dirty Lou** · 11-16-2008, 09:44 PM

Ill be posting up some pics of the HCG i got tomorrow.
and ill get the rest of the gear by tuesday i hope.
How much clomid and aromasin or proviron do i need to get?
Next time ill do more research on my cycle and PCT.
I was being guided by some one with novice experience until i found this site which i will be using more often next time.
Thank you for all your advice guys.

**Big** · 11-16-2008, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dirty Lou

Ill be posting up some pics of the HCG i got tomorrow.
and ill get the rest of the gear by tuesday i hope.
How much clomid and aromasin or proviron do i need to get?
Next time ill do more research on my cycle and PCT.
I was being guided by some one with novice experience until i found this site which i will be using more often next time.
Thank you for all your advice guys.

was the hcg in powder form when you got it?

**LATS60** · 11-17-2008, 05:31 AM

Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal

I think that first dose of 100mg clomid is over kill. I thought you would agree to go a bit lower than that with same results.

100mg of clomid is a pretty low dose, it's equivelant to around 30mg nolva.
It was also, as big said a pretty heavy cycle.
Clomid can do what nolva cannot, it increases LH and FSH by as much as 60% at that dose, thats a great start to your 1st weeks PCT.

**Flex-Appeal** · 11-17-2008, 08:40 AM

^I can agree to go with 100mgs... point taken

**Dirty Lou** · 11-17-2008, 08:40 PM

OK got the pics.

This is the HCG Powder in a glass viol and water in glass viol. With some blue chinas letter on it. Looks a little shade to me.

Here is a pic of the Anastrozole a friend had extra and gave it to me.

http://forums.steroid.com/attachment...1&d=1226975906

What do you guys think?

**Dirty Lou** · 11-17-2008, 08:41 PM

How much of each of these do i take and how often?

**Big** · 11-17-2008, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dirty Lou

How much of each of these do i take and how often?

for starters you should read this:
HCG (Pregnyl) FAQ

**Dirty Lou** · 11-17-2008, 09:05 PM

Cool thnaks.
How about the pics dose the HCG looked good.
Looks funny to me.

**Big** · 11-17-2008, 09:08 PM

I never use the fluid that comes with the hcg , I use bacteriostatic water.
I haven't seen that kind, but HCG is so cheap I don't know why anyone would fake it.

**Dirty Lou** · 11-19-2008, 05:01 PM

Ok.
I got HCG , ig ot my hands on some Nolvadex and i also have Anastrozole.
Now can i take the Anastrozole with the Nolvadex or should i get Aromasin instead.
Im looking to do this PCT:
Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
Now can I use Anastrozole to substitute for the Aromasin.

**LATS60** · 11-19-2008, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dirty Lou

Ok.
I got HCG , ig ot my hands on some Nolvadex and i also have Anastrozole.
Now can i take the Anastrozole with the Nolvadex or should i get Aromasin instead.
Im looking to do this PCT:
Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
6 20mgs/day
Now can I use Anastrozole to substitute for the Aromasin.

So where's the clomid???? for the PCT we all recommended.

**Dirty Lou** · 11-19-2008, 06:14 PM

isnt Nolvadex better than Clomid?
That what i read on PCT by Seroids.com

**Dirty Lou** · 11-19-2008, 06:16 PM

Can i take the Anastrozole with the Nolvadex or should i get Aromasin instead?

**LATS60** · 11-20-2008, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by Dirty Lou

isnt Nolvadex better than Clomid?
That what i read on PCT by Seroids.com

Better in what way?? Clomid can increase LH and FSH by up to 60% nolva cannot. It';s up to you, i'm just trying to help you get your natty test back up and running asap, it's up to you weather you take my advice.

**Dirty Lou** · 11-20-2008, 02:59 PM

LATS60 thanks for the info. I hear you.
But for now I havent been able to get my hands on any clomid.
So far i got the HCG the Nolvadex is all was able to get and Anastrozole.
Now i want to start now. LOL
Do i take them all together.
IS there a conflict between the Nolvadex and Anastrozole.