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    Question Clen on First PCT + Ketotifen

    I was thinking to use clen throughout my pct adding ketotifen in order not to impact on my receptors.

    Like this in mcg and days:
    20/40/60/80/100 keeping 100 mcg till the end of 3W then starting reversing 100/80/80/60/60/40/20.
    1CP of Ket ED + 2g of taurine ED for the heart.

    Did anyone ever experienced such a try?
    What do you think?

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    No clues guys!
    I can't believe no one has experienced it in pct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJJ View Post
    I was thinking to use clen throughout my pct adding ketotifen in order not to impact on my receptors.

    Like this in mcg and days:
    20/40/60/80/100 keeping 100 mcg till the end of 3W then starting reversing 100/80/80/60/60/40/20.
    1CP of Ket ED + 2g of taurine ED for the heart.

    Did anyone ever experienced such a try?
    What do you think?
    Never used it during PCT, but I would and will next PCT.

    It shows anabolic properties and aids in maintaining LBM.

    Good additon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Never used it during PCT, but I would and will next PCT.

    It shows anabolic properties and aids in maintaining LBM.

    Good additon.
    Thanks for your reply.
    By beholding the numbers of your posts, I guess you made more than one cycle, didn't you?
    So, you didn't think about clen before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    Never used it during PCT, but I would and will next PCT.

    It shows anabolic properties and aids in maintaining LBM.

    Good additon.
    Something else, is the ketotifen idea correct for you?

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    Keto will prevent the downregulation of of receptors, yes.

    I dont think a lot is needed for PCT if your wanting to use it for its anabolic properties.

    During PCT calories should be above maintenence, not below and cutting.

    I think Clen would be more benificial when cutting, not in PCT.

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    BJJ,

    I agree with Swifto... On post you are trying to keep your gains from cycle. Clen is used primarily for cutting... now many people use clen in post for the alleged anti-catabolic properties, but there are many studies suggesting it is not effect for that purpose only. Also others run cycles where they bulk at beginning and then cut at the end of cycle... I can see clen used at end of cycle or in pct for that reason.

    your clen dosage looks fine for what you got here.. I have only ran clen in cut cycle though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockinred View Post
    BJJ,

    I agree with Swifto... On post you are trying to keep your gains from cycle. Clen is used primarily for cutting... now many people use clen in post for the alleged anti-catabolic properties, but there are many studies suggesting it is not effect for that purpose only. Also others run cycles where they bulk at beginning and then cut at the end of cycle... I can see clen used at end of cycle or in pct for that reason.

    your clen dosage looks fine for what you got here.. I have only ran clen in cut cycle though.
    Thanks I'll keep this info in mind, even though right now I do not know what to do. I guess I have to make my first cycle and see how things are moving on.

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    The dosage for the clen cycling up and down is no longer used...

    If you are gonna run it start at the 20mcg and adjust up for the 2-3 weeks as your body adapts. You might be fine at 20mcg for a number of days or you might adapt quickly...

    The point I am trying to make it do not jump dosages up higher and higher unless your body is not responding...

    at the end of 2-3 simply stop and start keto for 2 weeks. Keto I have found will knock me out, it was best used prior to bed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancer View Post
    The dosage for the clen cycling up and down is no longer used...

    If you are gonna run it start at the 20mcg and adjust up for the 2-3 weeks as your body adapts. You might be fine at 20mcg for a number of days or you might adapt quickly...

    The point I am trying to make it do not jump dosages up higher and higher unless your body is not responding...

    at the end of 2-3 simply stop and start keto for 2 weeks. Keto I have found will knock me out, it was best used prior to bed.
    So I don't have to take keto with during the use of clen.
    What I read was to use it in conjunction with clen to avoid the downregulation which occurs after 2w.
    Thanks

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    I would use the keto and no reason to tapper down

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    you could also use benadryl to prevent downregulation..am in my pct and in 2 days i felt myself reducing..could be not suiting me..no clen for me in pct but on cycle its an amazing thing..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganu View Post
    you could also use benadryl to prevent downregulation..am in my pct and in 2 days i felt myself reducing..could be not suiting me..no clen for me in pct but on cycle its an amazing thing..
    benedryl doesn't prevent downregulation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    benedryl doesn't prevent downregulation
    thank you

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