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    My pct for my first cycle

    Ok I've been reading on this site for a while now and talking to people in person about my first cycle and pct. This is what my cycle will be.

    500 mg of Test E divided into two shots per week for 10-12 weeks.
    30 mg of Dbol every day for four weeks. Waiting one week after last shot of test and then running clomid/nolva at 100/40 for one week and then 50/20 for the following three weeks. I am ordering 70mL of Clomi and 100mL of Tamox from Ar-r .

    My stats are as follows
    age: 26
    height: 6'2''
    weight: 230lbs
    body fat: 13-14%
    years training: 6

    Anyone see anything that needs to be adjusted or added? I'm ordering two bottles of the 50 mL Tamox to have enough in case gyno pops up during the cycle.

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    Bump?

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    Start your PCT 2 weeks after your last inj rest looks ok

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    Looks good....good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadey33 View Post
    Start your PCT 2 weeks after your last inj rest looks ok
    Any reason as to why I should start the PCT 2 weeks after rather than 1?

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    Also I'm considering picking up some Aromasin from ar-r to use pct. Would it be worth it?

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    Any reason as to why I should start the PCT 2 weeks after rather than 1?
    Because the half life......
    Also I'm considering picking up some Aromasin from ar-r to use pct. Would it be worth it?
    Aromasin is good to have on hand in case but you already have nolva which should be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Because the half life......
    Aromasin is good to have on hand in case but you already have nolva which should be enough.
    Thanks for the answers.

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    No worrys mate let us know how it all goes.

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    I would have an AI on hand.

    Adex would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    I would have an AI on hand.

    Adex would be fine.

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    Adex, which product is that or closest to that on the ar-r website? I was gonna go with Aromasin . Also wondering whether I should be using that on cycle or save it for pct? Will it inhibit some of my gains? While we're at it I have access to test cyp and prop, any one tend to go with one over the other? I have no problem pinning every second day.

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    You may not need an AI at all, just wait to see what your estro sides are.

    Also you can run aromasin as an AI on cycle if needed.

    You can run the same AI on cycle that you run in PCT.

    It only effects gains if you kill all your estrogen.

    There is a balance only self experience can teach.

    I think clomid.nolva will be enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    You may not need an AI at all, just wait to see what your estro sides are.

    Also you can run aromasin as an AI on cycle if needed.

    You can run the same AI on cycle that you run in PCT.

    It only effects gains if you kill all your estrogen.

    There is a balance only self experience can teach.

    I think clomid.nolva will be enough.

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    Do you have any preference between test cyp/enth or prop? I was thinking of doing prop since the length you wait to start your pct is shorter than cyp/enth and according to steriod .com there is actually more test in each shot. Thanks again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by churchill5151 View Post
    Do you have any preference between test cyp/enth or prop? I was thinking of doing prop since the length you wait to start your pct is shorter than cyp/enth and according to steriod.com there is actually more test in each shot. Thanks again.
    Prop means more injections.

    Ethanate less.

    It's up to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITANIUM View Post
    Prop means more injections.

    Ethanate less.

    It's up to you.

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    Sounds good. Thanks again for your comments. Be starting up a log as soon as I get everything in order.

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    Lookin foward to see how it all goes for you. keep us posted

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    K, here is my proposed cycle that will start this saturday for those who would have anything to add.

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...25#post5046225

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    ^Since you're using prop now, start your pct three days after your last injection.

    Otherwise, you're good to go.

    good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    ^Since you're using prop now, start your pct three days after your last injection.

    Otherwise, you're good to go.

    good luck.
    That's what I've read. Thanks for confirming it.

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    is running straight Nolva after 11 weeks of Test C a " OK " thing to do ?

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    ^A few years ago I ran a prop only cycle and experimented with nolva only for pct.

    I still recovered, but it was no where near as smooth a recovery as with nolva/clomid. I know some people who use nolva only pct, but I won't, just because I know how much better I feel adding clomid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    ^A few years ago I ran a prop only cycle and experimented with nolva only for pct.

    I still recovered, but it was no where near as smooth a recovery as with nolva/clomid. I know some people who use nolva only pct, but I won't, just because I know how much better I feel adding clomid.
    I will run the clomid/nolva pct. I may have access to an AI and maybe maybe HCG . I'm hoping though that the clomid/nolva will do. This shyt is expensive lol.

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    i heard clomid messes with your vision...is that after extensive use or a long run or ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by enigma10 View Post
    i heard clomid messes with your vision...is that after extensive use or a long run or ?
    I never heard of that.

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