MDrol PCT Help...

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-15-2010, 05:53 PM

10mg has prevented ESRE'S WITH many clients I've worked with. Even reversed a few times. I wouldn't underestimate Tamoxifen and it's ability to take on Gyno at low dosages.

**marvgk** · 09-16-2010, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Chill brah, I have a life outside of the forum lol. So sometimes it'll take me a minute to get back to you...

Your doctor will know what gynecomastia is. If he/she doesn't, then they aren't doctors.

Bro, finish the PCT like I said. If the lumps are that bad, increase your Nolva to 40mg until symptoms subside. If the Nolva is ineffective, then utilize the Femara reversal protocol by C-Bino. If that doesn't work, surgery.

Hp

sorry again. i though u had nothing better to do then deal with my paranoia.lol How long should i give the nolva before i up it to 40mg.

thanks in advanced

**marvgk** · 09-18-2010, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

10mg has prevented ESRE'S WITH many clients I've worked with. Even reversed a few times. I wouldn't underestimate Tamoxifen and it's ability to take on Gyno at low dosages.

Hi HP

Its me again. So heres the deal. I went to my doctor. He says i do not have gyno and if i do its the progesterone type or something. The lumps i was feeling were soar muscles. When i flex my chest you cannot feel them at all. He didnt want to run bloodwork because i told him all the stuff i was taking and he said they will all be scewy anyway.

He says i should stop taking everything i am taking. Doing 20/10 of mdrol shouldny have done anything to me to be taking any type of pct.

I dont wanna take any chances so right now I am on 35 clomi and 25 nova. Its been about a week. I know u recommend to run nolva for a month at 25. When should i stop taking the clomi?

If the clomi is to boost my test and get it back on track then i think i am already there. I am super sexual lately with my girlfriend. And i havent taken mdrol in a week. just the pct.

Thanks for your time.

I also have one more question after i get ur feedback on this one. Thanks again and please forgive my ignorance

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-19-2010, 07:41 AM

Stop the clomid a week before the Nolva.

**oak2429** · 09-19-2010, 08:19 AM

choose one or the other for ur PCT

nolva-20/20/10/10
or
clomid-70/70/35/35

**marvgk** · 09-19-2010, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Stop the clomid a week before the Nolva.

HP

Is this normal. Been on pct for one week now. Take both clomid and nolva first thing in the morning. Seems like my nips get a little puffy

So today I decided to take the clomid in the am and the nolva in the afternoon. I think the nolva is making them a lil puffy/tingly. Is that normal?

Thanks in advanced.

**marvgk** · 09-21-2010, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by marvgk

HP

Is this normal. Been on pct for one week now. Take both clomid and nolva first thing in the morning. Seems like my nips get a little puffy

So today I decided to take the clomid in the am and the nolva in the afternoon. I think the nolva is making them a lil puffy/tingly. Is that normal?

Thanks in advanced.

Hp Sorry to bother u. Is it possible that the nolva is making my nips more puffy. I know u said to cut the clomid 1 week before the nolva. I was debating on stopping the nolva altogether and continue with the clomid. I think the nolva is making the nips more sensitive.

I am fine in the morning until i take my pct. Then within about 5 or 6 hours im a lil itchy and puffy again.

Or should i just go see an endo and see if they can fix me up?

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-22-2010, 08:27 AM

How would an Anti-estrogen cause your nipples to get more "puffy", makes no sense...

You may be over exaggerating or something but a picture would surely help me figure out what you are talking about.

Seeing an Endo is a option.

**marvgk** · 09-23-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

How would an Anti-estrogen cause your nipples to get more "puffy", makes no sense...

You may be over exaggerating or something but a picture would surely help me figure out what you are talking about.

Seeing an Endo is a option.

Sorry took me so long to respond. I went to the doctor today and he says i am exxagerating like crazy. Its all paranoia. But i dont know. i had him do some bloodwork. Hes gonna check my levels 2 weeks into my pct. Hes gonna check liver..test..est..progesterone..chol..and a few others.

I really believe that i have some type of progesterone gyno from all the research i have done. My breast carry a lot of water and fat. Yea my body fat is high but i never remember them being like that. I have also read on numerous threads that this type of gyno is aggrevated by nolva....true? i dont know hope u could help me there. If my prog hormones are high should i drop the nolva and stick with clomi?

Hopefully they all come back good. but i doubt it.

any advice would be appreciated. Also me and the doc found a bunch of lumps. None under the nipple but some close. He says they are cysts. Im confused about that one too.

Also if u have an email i can send u a pic of my chest

thanks again

**TRT2010** · 09-23-2010, 08:48 PM

yeah you seem super paranoid.. just post a pic on we will let you know

**marvgk** · 09-24-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by marvgk

Sorry took me so long to respond. I went to the doctor today and he says i am exxagerating like crazy. Its all paranoia. But i dont know. i had him do some bloodwork. Hes gonna check my levels 2 weeks into my pct. Hes gonna check liver..test..est..progesterone..chol..and a few others.

I really believe that i have some type of progesterone gyno from all the research i have done. My breast carry a lot of water and fat. Yea my body fat is high but i never remember them being like that. I have also read on numerous threads that this type of gyno is aggrevated by nolva....true? i dont know hope u could help me there. If my prog hormones are high should i drop the nolva and stick with clomi?

Hopefully they all come back good. but i doubt it.

any advice would be appreciated. Also me and the doc found a bunch of lumps. None under the nipple but some close. He says they are cysts. Im confused about that one too.

Also if u have an email i can send u a pic of my chest

thanks again

Any feedback would be appreciate.

Got my bloodwork back today. Here is how it looks. And bloodwork was done on day 9 of pct. 35 clomid and 25 nolva ed.

Cholesterol HDL Ratio= High
ALK Phosphatase = 40, low
Estradiol (e2) = 22.21 pg/ml
FSH = 3.2 miu/ml
LH = 4.19 miu/ml
Prolactin = 4.2 ng/ml
Progesterone = .69 ng/dl
TESTOSTERONE , Total-SERU 161.60

Does this look normal for 9 days into PCT?

Also before I stop PCT after my 4 weeks. Or 3 weeks clomid and 4 weeks nolva i would like to get bloodwork again to avoid any type of rebound. (or would this even help)

Just wondering on which of the hormones above i should pay attention to so i know it is safe to end PCT.

Thanks again

**marvgk** · 09-29-2010, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

How would an Anti-estrogen cause your nipples to get more "puffy", makes no sense...

You may be over exaggerating or something but a picture would surely help me figure out what you are talking about.

Seeing an Endo is a option.

Hi HP

2 questions if u can help out. Thanks in advanced.

1. On my 3rd week of pct. 35 clomi and 20 nolva. Do either of these 2 drugs cause any type of discomfort in the breast that u are aware? My left breast at some times during the day is uncomfortable. I wont call it pain but kind of like a numb uncomf feeling.

2. Monday coming up will mark the end of my 3rd week for PCT. I have an appt for blood testing before i stop the clomid PCT after 3 weeks and then 1 week of nolva left. What should i look for in my blood test to be sure it is safe to stop the clomid? If you know. I am guessing test at close to normal. maybe like 300 or so. estrogen in the low 20's. LH FH etc. I just wanna be safe.

thanks again for all ur help during prolly the worst exp in my life. Never doing a PH again

**jimdean38** · 11-06-2010, 07:21 PM

Is nolva or clomid enough for pct after mdrol cycle? I was thinking of taking Cycle Assist - 4 caps with morning meal and 4 caps with dinner
Cycle Support - One scoop with protein shake in the evening.
Reduce XT - Anti-Cortisol to help retain muscle and reduce fat storage during PCT.

**ithunk** · 11-09-2010, 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by marvgk

Any feedback would be appreciate.

Got my bloodwork back today. Here is how it looks. And bloodwork was done on day 9 of pct. 35 clomid and 25 nolva ed.

Cholesterol HDL Ratio= High
ALK Phosphatase = 40, low
Estradiol (e2) = 22.21 pg/ml
FSH = 3.2 miu/ml
LH = 4.19 miu/ml
Prolactin = 4.2 ng/ml
Progesterone = .69 ng/dl
TESTOSTERONE , Total-SERU 161.60

Does this look normal for 9 days into PCT?

Also before I stop PCT after my 4 weeks. Or 3 weeks clomid and 4 weeks nolva i would like to get bloodwork again to avoid any type of rebound. (or would this even help)

Just wondering on which of the hormones above i should pay attention to so i know it is safe to end PCT.

Thanks again

wow yr screwed...