24 week test e tren e cycle, HCG PCT questions

[supras4lyfee]

***I posted this in the wrong forum at first

23
male
6'0
230lbs
~15bf
training:4 years serious
cycle history:3 cycles involving test e and anavar ,
Goal: Would like to gain as much mass as possible with a clean diet without adding fat. Fat loss would be a nice bonus but is not the grounds for this cycle

Current cycle :
Using TNT (250test e + 150 tren e pr ml) test e

wk1-12 500 test e
wk12-24 750 test e
wk12-24 450 tren e

PCT :
Clomid
Day 1 300mg, 100mg for the rest of the week
wk 28-30 50mg ed

Nolva
wk 27-30
40/40/20/20

Question: When would it be best to incorporate HCG into this cycle , around week 19 or 20 or sooner (Week 7/8 of starting tren e)? at 1000iu per week (twice a week) up until the week I begin PCT ?

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Currently I have suffered from some testicular atrophy from not coming off the test for a while. I know this is an immature cycle I realize that, but Im going to finish it.

Is that a strong enough PCT to help recover my natural test once I come off?

Thanks
Dave

[FONZY007]

so your going to run test E for 12 weeks, than add tren E for another 12 weeks? Why so long of a cycle?

[FONZY007]

From my experince as an aas user at a young age (21). I didnt let my body fully develop, and had a hard crash when I was 25 yrs old. You want to do everything you can to get the boys jump started. Currently my natural system is running only half cuz of aas from a young age.. Not having any sides from the aas??

[yogiart]

IMO, 12 weeks cycle is enough. I would also run the test one week longer. I would also use hcg during the pct. I am not an expert but read a lot and done two cycles in the past. the testical atrophy should probably go away on hcg. I wouldn't get involved with doses of hcg and let the experts speak. As fonzy007 said, give yourself a chance to regain natural test levels. Here is how i would do it (but I, myself wouldn't use tren again):

Wk 1-13 test e 500 EW
wk 6or7-12 tren e 250/300 EW

WK 15-18 PCT: clomid, nolva and hcg

Please check with experts on these matter, I am just a user
Good luck

[supras4lyfee]

Meant to add I am currently on week 14 of the above cycle....which is why I am wondering if that is a strong enough PCT and correct HCG usage. Like I said its an immature cycle but I am in the middle of it and plan to carry it out to the end. Im looking for PCT advice given the above info. I figured I was allready shut down from 12 weeks on the test, im suffering from about 20% atrophy right now. If I add the HCG should I do so right now (week 14)or wait till tren is at full concentration in the blood around week 16-18? and continue with it till I start PCT
I appreciate all the feedback as always.

-Dave