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    gear up is offline New Member
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    no pct used on cycle of sus 250 and equipose 200

    how bad is this .. and can the testies begin to function them selfs ??? realy would appreciate the advice

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    yes they can but it may not be as effeciently as they did per cycle, the only way to know is by getting bloodwork done a few months after you finish and see if everything has returned to normal

    how long have you finished your cycle and why didnt you run a pct?

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    i took some tamox during the cycle but hadnt known any better i just jumped into it ... its been maybe a year or more .. and i ve started a cycle again but to only find out all this .. ive tamox and clomid and hcg on hand now how should i run them with my cycle ?

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    can i get your stats mate?

    age
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    macros from currennt diet
    training experience

    you need an a.i on cycle mate, this thread explains why

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.T2Io5XktmSp

    use the hcg at 250 i.u. for duration of cycle and up to start of pct

    keep clomid and tamox for pct, is suggest an aggressive ish pct in the hope of returning your natty test as close to normal as possible

    what is your current cycle?

    and by the way if you know you fvcked up last time then why on earth did you start a new cycle still without knowing what to do?

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    never mind any of the above

    best thing you can do at 21 mate is stop your cycle and run pct

    you may have already fvcked up your natty test by cycling without a pct and test could be low, and proceding to start another cycle will only fvck it up more and lead to serious long term problems, trust me mate its not something you want to have at back of your mind worrying you

    sympthoms of low test include, erectile dysfunction, depression, no energy, less strenght, no kids, anxiety, insecurity and many more that isnt coming to mind at the moment

    what are you running and how far into your cycle are you now?

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    im just one week into my cycle of sus 250mg X2 and equipose 200 X2... im just going to start the pct as you said il take clomid and tamox for it ... how long should i take this for ?

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    Looks like Dan got worked out. And I´m sure he will chime in.
    But here is my 2 cents, do nothing. Your HPTA will be suppressed, but probably very slight. Before your Hypothalamus figure out whats going on, the Test will be leaving your system. The Deca also has a half life of 16 days, which will give your HPTA time to recognize a slow decrease in Test.
    Last edited by Flier; 03-16-2012 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flier View Post
    Looks like Dan got worked out. And I´m sure he will chime in.
    But here is my 2 cents, do nothing. Your HPTA will be suppressed, but probably very slight. Before your Hypothalamus figure out whats going on, the Test will be leaving your system. The Deca also has a half life of 16 days, which will give your HPTA time to recognize a slow decrease in Test.
    Do nothing?! Seriously? What kind of recommendation is that bro? He needs to do pct no matter what!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VWbug66 View Post
    Do nothing?! Seriously? What kind of recommendation is that bro? He needs to do pct no matter what!!!
    Explain.
    Did u read the whole thread? He pinned twice.
    so let me ask, If you pin once 250mgs Cyp, and decide to stop, are u gonna run a full PCT?

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    Listen to Flier.

    No PCT needed if you stop this premature cycle immediately.

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