Nolvadex for PCT only??

**Live for the PUMP** · 08-19-2012, 10:24 AM

I'm going to be running first cycle here real soon. My PCT is going to be Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. I also will probably continue with the Arimidex . Most guys on here seem to run Clomid, Nolvadex, and an AI for PCT. Is there anyone who has used only Nolvadex for PCT? I would like to get some peace of mind that using just Nolvadex is ok.

Also with regard to AI, do you stop taking in between last injection and start of PCT?

**DeadlyD** · 08-19-2012, 03:10 PM

Your AI should be run up until the day you start PCT, and yes clomid is a good addition to PCT.

**Live for the PUMP** · 08-20-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by DeadlyD

Your AI should be run up until the day you start PCT, and yes clomid is a good addition to PCT.

Clomid is a SARM just like Nolvadex . Why would it be necessary to take two things that do the same thing?

**auswest** · 08-21-2012, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP

Clomid is a SARM just like Nolvadex. Why would it be necessary to take two things that do the same thing?

You mean SERM right..... estrogen not androgen

***D7M*** · 08-21-2012, 06:21 AM

I've recovered well in the past with Nolva only, yes.

**Live for the PUMP** · 08-21-2012, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by auswest

You mean SERM right..... estrogen not androgen

Yea...

**Live for the PUMP** · 08-21-2012, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by D7M

I've recovered well in the past with Nolva only, yes.

Cool that is what I want to hear. It makes more sense to me to start out with the minimum and add more if I need it.

**jimmyinkedup** · 08-24-2012, 08:33 AM

See here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...54#post6128454

**RustedIron** · 08-27-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Live for the PUMP

I'm going to be running first cycle here real soon. My PCT is going to be Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. I also will probably continue with the Arimidex . Most guys on here seem to run Clomid, Nolvadex, and an AI for PCT. Is there anyone who has used only Nolvadex for PCT? I would like to get some peace of mind that using just Nolvadex is ok.

Also with regard to AI, do you stop taking in between last injection and start of PCT?

Honestly, I'm very pissed off that my friend told me it was okay to do a PCT without hCG . It was my first cycle and now I truly understand that anti-estrogens alone are inadequate to restore normal endogenous testosterone production after a cycle. These agents ordinarily increase LH levels by blocking the negative feedback of estrogens. But LH rebounds quickly on its own post-cycle, without help.

Plus, there is not an elevated level of estrogen for anti-estrogens to block during this window, as testosterone (now suppressed) is a major substrate used for the synthesis of estrogens in men. Serum estrogen levels are actually lower here, not higher. Any estrogen rebound that occurs post-cycle, likewise, happens with a rebound in testosterone levels , not prior to it.

Search "PoWeR Cycle" in the PCT forums and it's broken up in detail. HCG is the answer to a successful PCT. I will never do PCT without HCG again.