AI during a cycle question

**crazy mike** · 12-31-2012, 11:18 AM

I have 5 more weeks with my test cypionate cycle and a few weeks ago I also plugged in some Winstrol 50 mgs ed and I'm decreasing my test 400 down to 200 mgs starting this week As I have posted before my test levels are off the charts and my estradil is double the range. I am getting some liquidex as suggested. Do Ya think I should plug in the liquidex NOW... like NOW ?
My pct will be Nolvadex and clomid when the time comes. Am I on track here guys?

**kelkel** · 12-31-2012, 11:22 AM

Yes. Should have had it from the beginning!

**crazy mike** · 12-31-2012, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Yes. Should have had it from the beginning!

But that was then and this is now. So I can only do the now and future............Thanks for the suggestion. I diddn't think about that.

**Stosh_112** · 12-31-2012, 12:31 PM

Yea run ur AI up until the day of pct.

**kelkel** · 12-31-2012, 01:10 PM

Op, still better late than never. Get on it before problems arise.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 01:15 AM

Thanks for the reply and suggestions.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 06:51 PM

I got a hold of Anastrazole 0.25 today that a friend had left. Any advice as to a good dosage and schedule for my current cycle as I described.

**OdinsOtherSon** · 01-01-2013, 06:57 PM

Typical dosage for Adex is 0.25mg EOD. Perhaps start there and monitor sides via getting blood work done so as to have a definitive picture of what is going on.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by OdinsOtherSon

Typical dosage for Adex is 0.25mg EOD. Perhaps start there and monitor sides via getting blood work done so as to have a definitive picture of what is going on.

Since it is very late in my cycle and my test level is off the charts and my estradiol is double the high range, should i start it as 0.25 mg ED for a few days, then 0.25 EOD? I will see my doc Thurs and get blood work going, which we are going to doing.

**MuscleInk** · 01-01-2013, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Since it is very late in my cycle and my test level is off the charts and my estradiol is double the high range, should i start it as 0.25 mg ED for a few days, then 0.25 EOD? I will see my doc Thurs and get blood work going, which we are going to doing.

How high is high? What's your BP and lipids at (if latter is know). You could run .25mg daily for up to two weeks if needed as then drop to EOD. Adex will have a negative effect on lipids and BP so keep that in mind while running higher doses.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

How high is high? What's your BP and lipids at (if latter is know). You could run .25mg daily for up to two weeks if needed as then drop to EOD. Adex will have a negative effect on lipids and BP so keep that in mind while running higher doses.

My lipids are all in good ranges and my bp is fine so.... and My total & free test is 7,331 ng/dL and my total free is 2,453 pg/mL. My estradiol is 95.0 pg/mL range is 0.0-56.0 I am looking at all the results from 12/13/12.

**MuscleInk** · 01-01-2013, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

My lipids are all in good ranges and my bp is fine so.... and My total & free test is 7,331 ng/dL and my total free is 2,453 pg/mL. My estradiol is 95.0 pg/mL range is 0.0-56.0 I am looking at all the results from 12/13/12.

Run the Adex @ .25mg daily x 7d. Cut back to .25 EOD after first week. That should bring you down without crashing your E2.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Run the Adex @ .25mg daily x 7d. Cut back to .25 EOD after first week. That should bring you down without crashing your E2.

That's what I wanted to hear. I was inclined to do a stronger daily dose short term but wanted someone to help with the decision

**MuscleInk** · 01-01-2013, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

That's what I wanted to hear. I was inclined to do a stronger daily dose short term but wanted someone to help with the decision

Your E2 is high but not a level that I'd recommend anything more aggressive. 7-14 days tops and the Adex will bring you in line. Half life is ~48hrs and Adex works quickly so one week should do it.

**kelkel** · 01-01-2013, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Your E2 is high but not a level that I'd recommend anything more aggressive. 7-14 days tops and the Adex will bring you in line. Half life is ~48hrs and Adex works quickly so one week should do it.

Totally agree with MI. I'd err on the side of 7 days IMO. Also be sure the E2 test is a sensitive assay.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Totally agree with MI. I'd err on the side of 7 days IMO. Also be sure the E2 test is a sensitive assay.

Thanks guys. I was getting into a funk and starting to worry because my body is getting stuck and I was thinking I was not going anywhere and or would start backing up.

**crazy mike** · 01-01-2013, 11:51 PM

Also it is 0.25mg x 60 ml.bottle so It is a dosage of 1 ml to take each dose. Be nice with me guys. there is no stupid question if your not sure. ...crazy mike

**MuscleInk** · 01-02-2013, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Also it is 0.25mg x 60 ml.bottle so It is a dosage of 1 ml to take each dose. Be nice with me guys. there is no stupid question if your not sure. ...crazy mike

The total volume you have is 60ml. What's the dosing/concentration listed on the bottle (it should say #mg/ml)?

Same way gear is dosed, which you said you're familiar with.

**crazy mike** · 01-02-2013, 12:13 AM

I got it. It's the 0.25 per mg/ml. I'm sure !....Thx

**MuscleInk** · 01-02-2013, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

I got it. It's the 0.25 per mg/ml. I'm sure !....Thx

Ok. As long as you're sure. In oral forms I've typically seen it as a 1mg tablet or liquid concentrated at 1mg/ml. That would mean you'd take 0.25ml in a syringe for a liquid dose.

**crazy mike** · 01-02-2013, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Ok. As long as you're sure. In oral forms I've typically seen it as a 1mg tablet or liquid concentrated at 1mg/ml. That would mean you'd take 0.25ml in a syringe for a liquid dose.

Putting aside feeling stupid, the truth is I was mistaken. You are 100% correct. 1ml is 1 mg. So for a dose of 0.25mg is as of course 0.25 ml.in a syringe. The dosing in print on the bottle had gotten wet, smiring it, and making it very difficult to see. Common sense should have prevailed but ? it didn't. I got this stuff second hand remember that's why it was not clear on the bottle. In my excitement I made this into rocket science....huh, crazy. Better to be embarrassed then to make a big mistake !

**crazy mike** · 01-03-2013, 11:40 PM

As per my AI and my PCT from my doctor, huh, wishful thinking. She is a dick. She says the post cycle depression body and mind is your consequence and will not help prescribe what I need. I didn't even tell her about the anastrazole I started. But she did give me lab orders for right now and then 6 weeks and then again when I want so (we) I myself can monitor. She's also is looking at all my labs CBC, PTH INTACT etc.. my sugar is way up over. I mention this because I told you guys I was going in to the Doctor. I have a handle on what I need for pct.

**crazy mike** · 01-06-2013, 11:11 AM

I’m holding a lot of water. I’m at wk 12 on a 16 wk cycle of test cypionate 400 mg wk and Winstrol 50mg ed. I have plugged in Anastrazole just this last Wed... I am aware it is VERY late but that’s the fact. Now the question is will the Anastrzazole help decrease my water retention and if so how long before I notice Anything ?

**crazy mike** · 01-12-2013, 12:17 PM

After my 7-9 th days on Asantrazole I am loosing some water retention. I not as puffy and felling like I'm going to burst all over. I am starting to have more muscular shape. I am more comfortable. Wish I knew before. Thanks to this forum I have learned now.