Blood Work @ 3 weeks into toremifene naltrexone PCT. No LH and Super Low Test

**themilkman** · 03-21-2013, 05:15 PM

First cycle, length was 9 weeks of short esters, mostly Test Prop and Tren Ace, some Mast Prop. Last injection was the last day of Week 9, which was 3 weeks before the day I got blood drawn including 3 days waiting for esters to clear. For that time i was taking 120/120/90 toremifene and 4.5mg naltrexone ED. I took hcg 200iu EOD for a good part of the cycle up until pct, noticed no atrophy. the first 3 days of PCT I felt pretty sketchy.... but after that I got to feeling totally recovered. My balls got plump, erections were strong... energy was good. I figured I had mostly recovered and decided to start a short DNP cycle. When I got the blood drawn I was on DNP and ephedrine. Why would my LH FSH and test be sooo low? how abnormal is that at this point?

**themilkman** · 03-21-2013, 05:31 PM

I have triptorelin acetate, more toremifene, naltrexone, and raloxifene. i forgot to mention i have also been using exemestane at 25mg ED. I plan to drop the DNP and continue to torem naltrexone and exemestane for a couple more weeks, then retest... if that fails, shoot 100 iu of the triptorelin? any suggestions?

**Bio-Active** · 03-21-2013, 06:49 PM

Could you lay out your pct protocol

**themilkman** · 03-21-2013, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Could you lay out your pct protocol

sure, on cycle: 200iu hcg EOD, 25mg exem ED
3 days after last inj: 4.5mg naltrexone ED, 120/90/60/30 toremifene, 25mg exem ED

some other supplements too, like 100mg or so pregnenolone ED, vitamin E, aspirin, t3

**Brohim** · 03-21-2013, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by themilkman

sure, on cycle: 200iu hcg EOD, 25mg exem ED
3 days after last inj: 4.5mg naltrexone ED, 120/90/60/30 toremifene, 25mg exem ED

some other supplements too, like 100mg or so pregnenolone ED, vitamin E, aspirin, t3

If you used Tren I would do 6 weeks of Torm. So you should have added 2 more weeks of Torm. at 20-30mg each day and then wait another 6 weeks and get blood drawn see if the PCT was successful.

In other words don't get blood drawn while still on PCT you will still be shutdown. Do it 6 weeks after you stop

**themilkman** · 03-25-2013, 10:51 PM

at 3 weeks on SERMS its normal for me to have NO LH? I used high doses during the cycle but... especially because I used hcg while on, and because I'm using naltrexone PCT (which is supposed to block hpta suppression), I can't believe how shut down I guess I am...

so I guess naltrexone is bogus for avoiding HPTA suppression?