First time PCT questions..

**tumbler1** · 07-22-2013, 06:48 PM

Hello, First off I am new so go easy. My stats:
6'
38 y/o
185-ish
Been working out on and off since I was about 20 Been very serious for a couple of years now.
Last bloodwork showed my t level was not low low but it was on the lower side of the normal average scale, if that makes sense.

I decided to do my first cycle a while back so I have been on several sites and forums getting all kinds of info. Which I can honestly say I am more lost then when I started. I think I over loaded on info. I decided to go with 250 mg 2x's a week for 10 weeks of cypoinate by itself due to it being my first cycle. Being it's my first cycle I got all my ducks in a row with diet and my training schedule a while back, So I am good there.and I know the gear I got is good quality.
The only real concern I have , well one of many I guess,is I was only able to get Nolvadex with the test I got. I got 100 20 mg pills. I have read through so many posts and threads on this forum and can't decide what's right.Am I going to be good with the nolvadex by itself for pct , and if I have gyno problems during the cycle,or am I going to lose everything I was able to gain during my cycle. I keep reading about HCG . But I read two posts about it being great and you need it, then I read two more about it being bad or it's not needed. So, I am not sure. I really don't even know where or how to get HCG if I did need or what to take it. Basically I just want to know if the Nolvadex is going to be enough. Being it's my first time I want to do it right and of course not lose my ball function and what I gained. Any help would be great thanks...

**Bio-Active** · 07-22-2013, 07:00 PM

No don't run nolvadex alone for pct. run Clomid and nolvadex. Clomid 100/50/50/50 nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and if you can get hcg it will keep your testies functioning during your cycle so yes you want to run it. I also suggest running an AI during your cycle right up to pct

**tumbler1** · 07-22-2013, 08:07 PM

THanks for the help. I tried to go to AR-R site but for some reason it wouldnt load. Was going to look on the site for clomid. adex or aromasin , which is better in your opinion? How or where do I get HCG ? Thanks again.

**Bio-Active** · 07-22-2013, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by tumbler1

THanks for the help. I tried to go to AR-R site but for some reason it wouldnt load. Was going to look on the site for clomid. adex or aromasin, which is better in your opinion? How or where do I get HCG? Thanks again.

Clomid is available from ar-r liquid Clomi )and I prefer aromasin at 12.5 mg Ed and aromasin liquid stane is available from ar-r as well

**animalBLIND** · 07-22-2013, 08:29 PM

I've also never ran hcg and have no idea where to get it

**Bio-Active** · 07-23-2013, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by animalBLIND

I've also never ran hcg and have no idea where to get it

This is not a source board bro. If you have questions you should start your own thread

**animalBLIND** · 07-23-2013, 11:49 AM

Never asked for source. Jus giving my opinion bro

**Bio-Active** · 07-23-2013, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by animalBLIND

Never asked for source. Jus giving my opinion bro

My apologies if you are interested in info regarding hcg it's all here. Check out the stickys as well

**animalBLIND** · 07-25-2013, 01:38 PM

No problem man I've jus never used it and would like all the info I can get. I've never even heard of people in my area using it

**Bio-Active** · 07-25-2013, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by animalBLIND

No problem man I've jus never used it and would like all the info I can get. I've never even heard of people in my area using it

Ask me anything you want about hcg . You are in good hands here bro

**kapper** · 07-26-2013, 04:35 AM

Sorry to jump in but while ur on the HCG topic, when i choose to cycle and run HCG aswell, can i pin my abdominal twice a week for the whole cycle (subQ) or do i hav to alternate to different areas like i would with the TEST E???

**Bio-Active** · 07-26-2013, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by kapper

Sorry to jump in but while ur on the HCG topic, when i choose to cycle and run HCG aswell, can i pin my abdominal twice a week for the whole cycle (subQ) or do i hav to alternate to different areas like i would with the TEST E???

Hcg can be injected either IM or sub q. I prefer sub q. It's almost painless and very little scar tissue with an insulin pin. There is plenty of area between lower mid and upper abs to pin sub q your entire cycle

**tumbler1** · 07-26-2013, 11:47 AM

Thanks for the help. Ar-r has the liquid clomid and aromasin . Is it done oral, IM or subQ? I have only seen oral of these two if I am correct..

**tumbler1** · 07-26-2013, 11:49 AM

I know it sounds stupid but I cant get to the stickys. How do I find them or get to one.. Sorry newbie

**Bio-Active** · 07-26-2013, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by tumbler1

Thanks for the help. Ar-r has the liquid clomid and aromasin. Is it done oral, IM or subQ? I have only seen oral of these two if I am correct..

They are oral no reason to be sorry

**Granovich** · 07-26-2013, 12:12 PM

hcG BLAST after cycle is the best thing added to hcg while on cycle
its perfect this way . recovery is much faster

**Bio-Active** · 07-26-2013, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Granovich

hcG BLAST after cycle is the best thing added to hcg while on cycle
its perfect this way . recovery is much faster

Why? If you run hcg during your entire cycle and have maintained testicular function I see no reason to blast hcg. If the testies are shut down then that's a different story.

**kapper** · 07-26-2013, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Hcg can be injected either IM or sub q. I prefer sub q. It's almost painless and very little scar tissue with an insulin pin. There is plenty of area between lower mid and upper abs to pin sub q your entire cycle

Thanks for that mate

**tumbler1** · 07-26-2013, 05:59 PM

So being its liquid form from AR-R ,the clomid and aromisan, you just pull out the mg you need with a sryinge like you would if it was test., then put it in your mouth? Want to make sure before I get it from AR-R, so I all the info. Also does it has to be refriderated after opened?Thanks again..

**Bio-Active** · 07-26-2013, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by tumbler1

So being its liquid form from AR-R,the clomid and aromisan, you just pull out the mg you need with a sryinge like you would if it was test., then put it in your mouth? Want to make sure before I get it from AR-R, so I all the info. Also does it has to be refriderated after opened?Thanks again..

Yep you just measure it out. It will be dosed per ml so you just have to do the math and no it doesn't have to be stored in the fridge. Yes you just drink it from the syringe but remove the needle so you don't poke yourself

usually ar-r will send you a syringe to measure it with

**Mp859** · 07-26-2013, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Why? If you run hcg during your entire cycle and have maintained testicular function I see no reason to blast hcg. If the testies are shut down then that's a different story.

You will be shit down regardless if you use hcg .
And used for to long you may become desensitized to LH

I feel a blast before pct like 1000ius eod for 5000ius transitioned into a clomid pct is amazing for recovery

Now using the hcg while on will keep them full if your girl likes to play with them or something

**Bio-Active** · 07-26-2013, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

You will be shit down regardless if you use hcg .
And used for to long you may become desensitized to LH

I feel a blast before pct like 1000ius eod for 5000ius transitioned into a clomid pct is amazing for recovery

Now using the hcg while on will keep them full if your girl likes to play with them or something

Your lh function will be shut down yes but the hcg will mimic lh production during your cycle. Lh production is the fastest thing to recover during pct. running hcg during your cycle will make a much smoother recovery

**Mp859** · 07-26-2013, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Your lh function will be shut down yes but the hcg will mimic lh production during your cycle. Lh production is the fastest thing to recover during pct. running hcg during your cycle will make a much smoother recovery

I have seen this debate many times. Running hcg on cycle vs blast before pct

To each his own brother

Either way will do its job

**Bio-Active** · 07-26-2013, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mp859

I have seen this debate many times. Running hcg on cycle vs blast before pct

To each his own brother

Either way will do its job

Correct but with the blast you do have to consider there will be heavy amortization as well as leaving your organs not functioning during the cycle. There are always risks unfortunately its part of the game