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    Clomid to use during cycle to prevent testi shrinkage

    I've heard from a ton of people that I can use 1 capsule of clomid eod starting on day 15 til pct during a 12 week cycle of test e/masteron e while using aramosin at 12.5mg e3d to prevent testi shrinkage. Correctomundo anyone? Thank you and appreciate it in advanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLrdFrgvMe
    I've heard from a ton of people that I can use 1 capsule of clomid eod starting on day 15 til pct during a 12 week cycle of test e/masteron e while using aramosin at 12.5mg e3d to prevent testi shrinkage. Correctomundo anyone? Thank you and appreciate it in advanced.
    I would not run Clomid on cycle. Run hcg on cycle at 200-250 iu 2 x EW and save the Clomid for pct

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    When should I start the hcg ? This is what my cycle looks like right now

    1-12 test e 600mg a week (300mg Monday 300mg Thursday)
    1-12 masteron e 500mg a week (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
    1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod

    pct:
    15-17 hcg 2500iu a week (1250iu Monday 1250iu Thursday)
    15-17 torem 120mg/ed
    18-19 torem 60mg/ed

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    Thank you for the reply btw. Really appreciate it.

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    or I was thinking about doing HCG at 750IU twice per week and than finish off with 500IU once in the 4th week alongside the Torem instead for pct

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    I'm sorry, I messed up. It's this for pct actually.

    pct:
    15-16 hcg 2500iu a week (1250iu Monday 1250iu Thursday)
    15-16 torem 120mg/ed
    17-18 torem 60mg/ed

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    I also have some erase that I was thinking about dosing at 75mg ed or transdermal formestane at 100mg ed during pct + d-aspartic acid 3g ed unless none of those are necessary

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    Run your hcg from the beginning of the cycle right up to 3 days prior to starting pct at 200-250 iu 2 x EW. That is plenty to maintain testicular function during the administration of exogenous testosterone . Running higher doses nay risk desensitizing the ledig cells

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    Thanks jim really appreciate it. Should I just use torem for my pct at 120mg/ed for first week then 60mg/ed rest of the weeks then? No hcg during pct. Sound ok to you? Is there anything else I should add to pct? Like erase at 75mg/ed as i've said earlier or etc... ?

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    Good advice from Jim, as usual.

    Clomid or Torem for PCT is fine, but you need to also add Tamoxifen . They work in synergy for the betterment of your recovery.
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    Thanks Austin, I appreciate your reply as well. Ok so heres a layout of my cycle and pct. If you don't mind please tell me what you think I would appreciate that.

    Cycle:
    1-12 test e 600mg a week (300mg Monday 300mg Thursday)
    1-12 masteron e 500mg a week (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
    1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
    1-15 hcg 400iu a week (200iu Monday 200iu Thursday) (Stop 3 days before pct)

    Pct:
    15-18 Torem 120/60/60/60
    15-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20

    Look ok to you? Should I add some erase or transdermal formestane or anything else? Maybe some unleashed or blue up? Or is the extras really not necessary

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    I need your full stats to continue advising you.

    Age, height, weight, body fat percentage, cycle history and training experience.
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    5'8 195lbs around 15 %bf maybe a hair less. Genetics are extremely good. I respond to things very well. First time AAS cycle. 3yrs training exp. Cycle history H-drol + Xtreme-Tren stack. Been researching AAS for over 6 months now and have been getting opinion after opinion. I have already purchased most of everything I need but won't be starting cycle til mid-late fall.

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    Im sorry I forgot that. Im 25

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLrdFrgvMe View Post
    Thanks Austin, I appreciate your reply as well. Ok so heres a layout of my cycle and pct. If you don't mind please tell me what you think I would appreciate that.

    Cycle:
    1-12 test e 600mg a week (300mg Monday 300mg Thursday)
    1-12 masteron e 500mg a week (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
    1-14 aromasin 12.5mg eod
    1-15 hcg 400iu a week (200iu Monday 200iu Thursday) (Stop 3 days before pct)

    Pct:
    15-18 Torem 120/60/60/60
    15-18 Nolva 40/20/20/20

    Look ok to you? Should I add some erase or transdermal formestane or anything else? Maybe some unleashed or blue up? Or is the extras really not necessary
    12.5 mg Aromasin eod probably isnt going to cut it. Start at 12.5 ed and adjust from there. Many run 12.5 morning and another 12.5 at night. The only way to know is to run labs

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    So Aromasin about 25mg eod or e3d should do the trick then? I won't start with that i'll do what u told me to do. 12.5 then move from there. Any thoughts on my pct? Would you do anything differently?

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    No... Aromasin needs to be taken at least ed. Start at 12.5 mg ed

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    Ok, and what if I'm experiencing join pain because of it? Or will that be the case at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLrdFrgvMe View Post
    Ok, and what if I'm experiencing join pain because of it? Or will that be the case at all?
    At 12.5 mg ed i don't think you will suffer from low estrogen bro. I am not estrogen sensitive at all and 12.5 ed works just fine for me

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    Ok. Cool. As far as my pct is that all I should need to do? Anything I should add or change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xLrdFrgvMe View Post
    Ok. Cool. As far as my pct is that all I should need to do? Anything I should add or change?
    Should be fine

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    Alright. Thank you jim I really do appreciate it. I'll begin this cycle mid fall. Austin thank you as well. If I have any questions I'll make another reply.

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