Been on way to long , best method of PCT for prolonged cycle if at all

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 04:40 PM

I've been on for over a year strait of 600 week test cyp and adding deca on and off three times out of the year.
I've never posted before just read a lot. But nothing I've read has pertained to my unique situation. I was 170 when I started and now I'm 210. I've been stuck at 210 for about 3 months making me think my body is really telling me no more for now. I'm really trying to avoid all the sexual and mental downfalls associated with pct and this is another one of the main reasons I've never came off in the first place. I'm 33, But I want to make sure I can have kids one day as I've heard numerous horror stories about permanent suppression of your natural receptors. I know I haven't done the right thing so please keep your negative replies limited and any and all educated suggestions and ideas would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you

**Bio-Active** · 11-24-2013, 04:44 PM

are you wanting to come off? Not really sure what you are asking?

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 04:56 PM

Yes and for how long should I /can I before starting again?

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 05:02 PM

Would a novalex /dbol be ok for 10-12 weeks before starting again or just take 200-250 test per week for 10-12? Heard I might need hcg for 10 days too before the nova

**Bio-Active** · 11-24-2013, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Newbyguy30

Would a novalex /dbol be ok for 10-12 weeks before starting again or just take 200-250 test per week for 10-12? Heard I might need hcg for 10 days too before the nova

nolva and dbol is not coming off. Are you wanting to come off or cruise?

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 05:13 PM

Honestly I'm not exactly sure. Just really wanting to avoid any permanent (reproductive)damage if I already haven't done so without sacrificing everything I've worked for over the past year

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 05:20 PM

Please take into consideration this is my first cycle , it just went a hell of a lot longer than I ever planned for it to. The results were highly addictive to say the least being a 6'2" 170 string bean to what I am now. Just really don't where to go from here

**Bio-Active** · 11-24-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Newbyguy30

Please take into consideration this is my first cycle , it just went a hell of a lot longer than I ever planned for it to. The results were highly addictive to say the least being a 6'2" 170 string bean to what I am now. Just really don't where to go from here

You have been on for over a year straight. Coming off may be a bumpy ride. You have a couple choices. You could either run the power pct or you could cruise for about 6 weeks or so running hcg . Then run a aggressive pct and see if you recover.

**ironbeck** · 11-24-2013, 05:46 PM

33yrs old, when do you plan on trying for reproduction?

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

You have been on for over a year straight. Coming off may be a bumpy ride. You have a couple choices. You could either run the power pct or you could cruise for about 6 weeks or so running hcg. Then run a aggressive pct and see if you recover.

What's power pct?

**Newbyguy30** · 11-24-2013, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by ironbeck

33yrs old, when do you plan on trying for reproduction?

35-37 if I find the right host lol

**kelkel** · 11-24-2013, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Newbyguy30

What's power pct?

Google it. It's by Mike Scally. Pretty much an authority on PCT who for extended cycles recommends an aggressive, high dosage period of HCG to stimulate the testies and then PCT.

**Bio-Active** · 11-25-2013, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Google it. It's by Mike Scally. Pretty much an authority on PCT who for extended cycles recommends an aggressive, high dosage period of HCG to stimulate the testies and then PCT.

right.... Even if you ran half the hcg he suggest it's a pretty good protocol and if you are not responding it gives room to add

**kelkel** · 11-25-2013, 01:48 PM

Or, simply add hcg to your current protocol for a while and then come off and run a normal pct.

**Bio-Active** · 11-25-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Or, simply add hcg to your current protocol for a while and then come off and run a normal pct.

That is my original recommendation. Running hcg for 6 weeks or so should stimulate some testicular function jump starting you in to pct

**kelkel** · 11-25-2013, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

That is my original recommendation. Running hcg for 6 weeks or so should stimulate some testicular function jump starting you in to pct

I see said the blind man! Thanks Jim.

**Bio-Active** · 11-25-2013, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

I see said the blind man! Thanks Jim.

lol I had to kel...

**kelkel** · 11-25-2013, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by jim230027

lol I had to kel...

I would have been disappointed if you didn't.

**Newbyguy30** · 11-27-2013, 01:07 AM

I have nolalex and some AHD 250 I bought from GNC and also DIM. Both are estrogen modulators from what I understand. I can't seem to find HCG at the moment or if I do will it be here in time is another great question : / . I took my last shot of tes/dec on 11/23 . What do you guys think? Even if I decide to stop here I would like to be back on by mid February. And given about the 10-12 week time off should I just "cruise" instead and what does that consist of?

**Newbyguy30** · 11-27-2013, 01:21 AM

And on another note I've heard many guys rarely even come off. They just pyramid down there doses to almost natural levels of 200 or so for 8 weeks or more then back up. If this is true I wonder if they are ever able to reproduce after suppressing there natural test for so long or is everyone different?That's the only thing I'm worried about is not being able to have kids one day down the road. My experience over this past year has been stellar to say the least and its almost border line addictive between the results and how my mental has changed. Everyone's input so far has been great please keep it coming

**Bio-Active** · 11-27-2013, 04:57 AM

Originally Posted by Newbyguy30

And on another note I've heard many guys rarely even come off. They just pyramid down there doses to almost natural levels of 200 or so for 8 weeks or more then back up. If this is true I wonder if they are ever able to reproduce after suppressing there natural test for so long or is everyone different?That's the only thing I'm worried about is not being able to have kids one day down the road. My experience over this past year has been stellar to say the least and its almost border line addictive between the results and how my mental has changed. Everyone's input so far has been great please keep it coming

This is only for people on trt were it is medically needed. There body does not produce enough testosterone for normal function anymore