PCT Help ---

**er91** · 03-03-2014, 11:17 PM

Alright, here's the low down. I'm on my 8th week of my Test Enanthate cycle doing one pin at 500 ml a week. I know now from research that it is recommended to split them up 250ml at a time but being that it may be too late to make a difference, lets not dwell on that. I have been running my cycle with test only and no hcg like i should have been. My dumbass is just now doing the research that i should have did a long time ago and needless to say, i need help. I havent experienced major sides from my cycle other than very mild acne(like a pimple here and there) and slighty smaller testes. My main concern is now my PCT. My question is if i run my pct two weeks after last pin(10th week) with HCGenerate, Unleashed, and Post Cycle all at recommended dosages will that be sufficient or not and do you think ill be able to retain my gains and get my testes back to normal size? Sorry if i sound really dumb with all these questions, but any responses are appreciated!

**er91** · 03-03-2014, 11:44 PM

I'm honestly thinking about stopping now at my 7th week and praying that things do not go bad with no pct due to not planning this or researching at all. I may in the future do another cycle but it will damn well be when i have done enough research to feel comfortable doing one. Right now im just worrying myself to death about the post side effects and I just simply am not at ease with my level of knowledge. Btw, i realized i didnt post any stats, but I am 23 years old 6' tall 205 lbs.

**mauz** · 03-04-2014, 12:14 AM

so are you saying you don't have any pct ? if not heck out arr.com banner at top of page.

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 04:42 AM

You need to run pct of nolvadex and Clomid

**theseus** · 03-04-2014, 06:47 AM

if you are running Test E only cycle, PCT with nolvadex and clomid should suffice..

HCG won't hurt

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by theseus

if you are running Test E only cycle, PCT with nolvadex and clomid should suffice..

HCG won't hurt

Hcg is not recommended for pct as it will suppress lh function hindering recovery

**theseus** · 03-04-2014, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

Hcg is not recommended for pct as it will suppress lh function hindering recovery

not if it is run at the beginning of PCT to bring back the testicular volume prior to kicking start the HPTA

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by theseus

not if it is run at the beginning of PCT to bring back the testicular volume prior to kicking start the HPTA

it needs to be discontinued 3 days prior to starting pct to avoid lh suppression

**er91** · 03-04-2014, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by jim230027

it needs to be discontinued 3 days prior to starting pct to avoid lh suppression

Ok, so after my 10th and final pin should i use hcg for a week and 4 days and stop 3 days before i start nolva and clomid which would be 2 weeks after last pin? And could you possibly tell me what dosages i should run with?

And i looked at the liquid clomi and tamox on ar-r .com, would you suggest that be where I get my pct serms? should i go with the liquid or look elsewhere for the pills? Again sorry for the bombardment of questions but i really do appreciate youre help guys!

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by er91

Ok, so after my 10th and final pin should i use hcg for a week and 4 days and stop 3 days before i start nolva and clomid which would be 2 weeks after last pin? And could you possibly tell me what dosages i should run with? And i looked at the liquid clomi and tamox on ar-r.com, would you suggest that be where I get my pct serms? should i go with the liquid or look elsewhere for the pills? Again sorry for the bombardment of questions but i really do appreciate youre help guys!

why can't you start the hcg sooner?

**er91** · 03-04-2014, 10:24 AM

so, i should start the hcg as soon as i receive it which would probably be in my 8th or 9th week and use it up untill 3 days before i start my pct? and should i just go ahead and get pills like HCGenerate and pill forms of nolva and clomid? I would rather take the pills than have to pin it all, but not if its not as effective or worse for me.

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by er91

so, i should start the hcg as soon as i receive it which would probably be in my 8th or 9th week and use it up untill 3 days before i start my pct? and should i just go ahead and get pills like HCGenerate and pill forms of nolva and clomid? I would rather take the pills than have to pin it all, but not if its not as effective or worse for me.

yes on the hcg and hcg generate I wouldn't bother with.

**er91** · 03-04-2014, 10:41 AM

ok, thanks. do you know of a reputable place for me to purchase the hcg then? and i assume the clomid and nolva is fine to just get the pills?

**er91** · 03-04-2014, 11:22 AM

I cant seem to find hcg injections anywhere, but i can find the clomid and nolva both so i may just run those for my pct and end my cycle short at 8 weeks instead of 10. what are your thoughts on that?

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by er91

I cant seem to find hcg injections anywhere, but i can find the clomid and nolva both so i may just run those for my pct and end my cycle short at 8 weeks instead of 10. what are your thoughts on that?

this would be a good idea under the circumstances. This is not a source board

**er91** · 03-04-2014, 12:14 PM

okay, thanks for letting me know, im new here so i will have to get familiar with the rules. my bad.

**Bio-Active** · 03-04-2014, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by er91

okay, thanks for letting me know, im new here so i will have to get familiar with the rules. my bad.

the biggest mistake people make when starting a cycle is not having everything they need before they start. You gave only been on 8 weeks the chances are you will recover just fine with nolva and Clomid but there are always risks involved