clomid nolva and hcg pct

[tarex]

Ok so I just got off a 8 week cycle of 500mg decca 500mg susta each week I started pre pct hcg 1500iu 2 times a week, for 2 weeks before pct ,my balls got a bit size and everything was going well,then I started nolva and clomid therapy 100 mg clomid 40 nolva /day im in day 3 my balls are atrophied as **** I mean the size of a peanut im worried about whether or not im gonna get them back ,should I add in some more hcg? I was thinkin of getting animal pack to help with the testboost ,, should I? What should I do? To get them back to life?
Thx alot in advance

[numbere]

HCG is repressive to natural LH production, so it should be used on cycle and not during PCT. If you cycle again hCG should be used from the start of your cycle until 3 days prior to PCT, dosed at 250IU twice a week. The volume of your testicles is not a thorough method for judging natural LH/FSH production. Continue PCT as you normally would, don't use a test booster. Have a hormone panel done 6-8 weeks after PCT to see whether you have fully recovered.

What is your previous cycling experience?
Did you use decca or NPP?
How long after your last injection did you begin PCT?
What are dosages and timetable are you using for PCT?

[tarex]

HCG is repressive to natural LH production, so it should be used on cycle and not during PCT. If you cycle again hCG should be used from the start of your cycle until 3 days prior to PCT, dosed at 250IU twice a week. The volume of your testicles is not a thorough method for judging natural LH/FSH production. Continue PCT as you normally would, don't use a test booster. Have a hormone panel done 6-8 weeks after PCT to see whether you have fully recovered.

What is your previous cycling experience?
Did you use decca or NPP?
How long after your last injection did you begin PCT?
What are dosages and timetable are you using for PCT?

this is my first cycle thats why im worried >.>
I used decca yeah ,
I began PCT 14 days after the last injection
Clomid 100\50\50\50
Nolva 40\20\20\20
and i did the Hcg during the 14 days wait i had.(1500iu)\2times a week
Edit : im still on day 3 Clomid +nolva

[numbere]

No offense bro, your cycle is a complete mess from start to finish. PCT should begin 21 days after last pin when using deca , and 18 days after last pin when using sus. Deca should be used for at least 10-12 weeks to get serum to peak a level. It's a good thing your cycle was only 8 weeks long, this will make PCT a bit easier. You should add another week to your PCT doses in order to compensate for your early start. Using nolva for an additional 2 weeks at 20mg/ED would be a good idea. Then have BW in 6 weeks to see if you have recovered.

[kelkel]

using nolva for an additional 2 weeks at 20mg/ed would be a good idea. Then have bw in 6 weeks to see if you have recovered.

x2....

[Lovemiami]

What about if after the BW he discover is not fully recover , does he has to continue the treatment ? Or what's next ?

[numbere]

What about if after the BW he discover is not fully recover , does he has to continue the treatment ? Or what's next ?

One of the most common misconceptions among AAS users is that PCT will restore your test and LH/FSH levels to what they were pre cycle. What a proper PCT will do is increase your chances of having a full recovery. Nothing in life is a guarantee. This is why a majority of our members are against cycling at a young age. The more your endocrine system is undeveloped then the less responsive it will be to recovery after cycle. Even a fully developed adult may take a year to fully recover serum levels after PCT.

Now if you don't recover after PCT there are a few things you can try. You can continue training regularly and eat a healthy high fat diet. You could run another PCT or the power PCT program by Dr Michael Scally. Using low dose clomid for several weeks might also work. These are all the methods I know of but there might be more. The best route to take really depends on your specific situation; what products were used and the length of cycle.

[Lovemiami]

Thanks for the answer , I ask because I'm doing my first PCT I'm on my third week on nolva an clomi , but another question to ask is, my wife and I wants to have our first child , do you know if cycling or after the pct is good or I has nothing to do with this meaning that steroids do not affect this matter ??? Should I wait ?

[numbere]

Thanks for the answer , I ask because I'm doing my first PCT I'm on my third week on nolva an clomi , but another question to ask is, my wife and I wants to have our first child , do you know if cycling or after the pct is good or I has nothing to do with this meaning that steroids do not affect this matter ??? Should I wait ?

Members have conceived while on cycle. I'm not sure of your chances during PCT. During this period spermatogenesis is one of the functions we are trying to restore. IMO the only thing I would be worried about during PCT would be preserving my newly formed tissue.

[Lovemiami]

Thanks , yeah I feel like losing weight like crazy and my drive to train have decrease significantly, I guess I will wait for the BW to check my self and see if I decide to do it again

[tarex]

No offense bro, your cycle is a complete mess from start to finish. PCT should begin 21 days after last pin when using deca, and 18 days after last pin when using sus. Deca should be used for at least 10-12 weeks to get serum to peak a level. It's a good thing your cycle was only 8 weeks long, this will make PCT a bit easier. You should add another week to your PCT doses in order to compensate for your early start. Using nolva for an additional 2 weeks at 20mg/ED would be a good idea. Then have BW in 6 weeks to see if you have recovered.

yeah i know , stupid , anyways , will i get my balls back on clomid and nolva ? , and why shouldn't i add a testboost product like animal stack , i read somewhere they could help ?

[Bio-Active]

yeah i know , stupid , anyways , will i get my balls back on clomid and nolva ? , and why shouldn't i add a testboost product like animal stack , i read somewhere they could help ?

Your going to have to give your body time to recover and just wait it out. Most test boosters are just a waste. Follow through with your pct and see we're you are at 6 weeks after your pct is finishef

[jimmyinkedup]

Who knows if you 100% will or not? Hopefully you will.
As far as test boosters you would be served just as well by walking out into your front yard, pulling out some grass from the lawn, putting it in capsules ad taking that. They are useless. Adding one in would be like adding in stp gas treatment to NASA rocket fuel

[zempey]

Start relying on what you read here, take the advice and apply it, these guys know what they are talking about. You made some mistakes and now you have to be patient and let the drugs do their job, this will take time.

[tarex]

Aha , thnx alot guys , im gonna wait it out and see hopefully nothing goes wrong
EDIT : i have a question i was told by numbere that i should add another week to my pct because of the early start , should i go with 100\100\50\50\50 or 100\50\50\50\50 for clomid ,40\40\20\20\20 or 40\20\20\20\20 for nolva ?

[Bio-Active]

Aha , thnx alot guys , im gonna wait it out and see hopefully nothing goes wrong EDIT : i have a question i was told by numbere that i should add another week to my pct because of the early start , should i go with 100\100\50\50\50 or 100\50\50\50\50 for clomid ,40\40\20\20\20 or 40\20\20\20\20 for nolva ?

just add a week to the nolva and discontinue the clomid at the 4 week mark if you are adding a week

[tarex]

just add a week to the nolva and discontinue the clomid at the 4 week mark if you are adding a week

alright thanks man

[Kozmo]

IMO test only is a good first cycle. Deca is very suppressive. Also your prolactin levels could be jacked from deca which would hinder recovery.

[tarex]

IMO test only is a good first cycle. Deca is very suppressive. Also your prolactin levels could be jacked from deca which would hinder recovery.

im not sure what prolactin levels is , english isnt my main anyways so is there something I can do to raise those levels ? or just have to wait it out?

[tarex]

Alright guys , my libido is higher , i get morning wood again , but my balls are still as small as a peanut :/ im still in week 2 pct :P yeah i know , been reading around , and ppl say HCGenerate is good for bringing the boys back ? but i cant get it where i live. i can get other testboosting products (i know u said it's worthless)
what is weird tho all the other forums recommend Testboost products(HCGenerate or Teststack ), but not here , the other sites are just promoting them ?
another thing , if i finish my pct and my balls are still not back what can i do ? to get them back ?
thx alot

[jimmyinkedup]

Most sites pushing that supp company stuff are full of company reps or inexperienced members that dont know any better man. Nothing stimulates LH & FSH like serms do, especially herbal concoctions my friend. They are useless in PCT in my opinion!

[tarex]

Most sites pushing that supp company stuff are full of company reps or inexperienced members that dont know any better man. Nothing stimulates LH & FSH like serms do, especially herbal concoctions my friend. They are useless in PCT in my opinion!

Aha , it's just a bit confusing to see all those ppl recommending it >.> . anyways , thx for clearing that up

[lovbyts]

Aha , it's just a bit confusing to see all those ppl recommending it >.> . anyways , thx for clearing that up

Yes it can be confusing but I found a simple way to take care of that years ago, I dont go to those other sites. Really, I stick here because I know I will get the best information available without the reps pushing crap. We do suggest getting your PCT and other serm product at our sight sponsor but thats due to proven quality and customer service. I dont get $0.01 for suggesting them and in fact I spend exactly the same as anyone else who shops there but I will always suggest because I dont have to worry about anyone getting pissed at me for getting a bunk or weak product.

Good luck with your PCT and dont worry/stress until you have something to worry about.

[tarex]

Yes it can be confusing but I found a simple way to take care of that years ago, I dont go to those other sites. Really, I stick here because I know I will get the best information available without the reps pushing crap. We do suggest getting your PCT and other serm product at our sight sponsor but thats due to proven quality and customer service. I dont get $0.01 for suggesting them and in fact I spend exactly the same as anyone else who shops there but I will always suggest because I dont have to worry about anyone getting pissed at me for getting a bunk or weak product.

Good luck with your PCT and dont worry/stress until you have something to worry about.

Yeah i think i will do the same from now on. take advice from here and apply it , atleast no one is trying to sell me thier products for profit ! anyways thx alot guys u have been helpful

[lovbyts]

Yeah i think i will do the same from now on. take advice from here and apply it , atleast no one is trying to sell me thier products for profit ! anyways thx alot guys u have been helpful

Thats good, we get the occasional troll or scammer who is looking to sell gear but we try to warn everyone that 99% of the guys who are soliciting to sell gear are going to scam you and your money will be gone.. They dont last long here, once they are found out they are banned, even if they have been here a long time.

[tarex]

Alright guys , i just finished week 4 pct , running nolva for an additional 2 weeks now , tho my balls are still small , libido is not that good :/ , should i give it more time ?

[numbere]

Testicular volume is not a good way to judge natural test production. Finish out your nolva treatment then have BW in 6-8 weeks. There is no guarantee that PCT will recover your natural hormone function. This is one of the many risks associated with cycling. Recovery can take time, as some people require a year in order to fully recover.

[tarex]

It's been 6 months since i finished my cycle , and my balls are still not quite the way they used to be.
i mean they are better than what they were before Not raisin size anymore.
they keep changing in size , sometimes the left one is bigger sometimes the right one but usually the right one is the bigger one , im not sure what kind of stuff my body is going through now , and if someone could explain why is this happening.
i really don't know what to do now , im thinking about getting tested for test these days , the problem is that im a bit short on money.
my sex drive isn't the best either , and i noticed something , they shrink even more after sex\masturbation, especially if it was more than once\day.