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    runeverything is offline New Member
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    Proper PCT

    Hi all, new here and looking for some good advice.

    Halfway through a PH cycle of DMZ stacked with Alpha-1. Already making significant gains and overall am pleased. No negative side effects other than a little tired. This is my third PH cycle but has been a while since my last one.

    I have here nolvadex , clomid, lean xtreme, and glycobol. Yes I know I should have everything planned out beforr starting my cycle, so please nobody blast me on that. I've been talking to others and am seeking more information so that I can run the most effective and safe PCT.

    My plans are to do a four week Pct:
    Nolvadex 40/20/10/10
    Clomid 100/50/50
    Lean Xtreme (for cortisol control)
    Glycobol for Atp

    Is it ok to run nolva and clomid together. This is what my buddy told me to do and he has done a number of cycles with PH's and real gear. I also have a estrogen Aromatase inhibitor with a suicide blocker. Should i be taking that right now, on cycle? I am not experiencing anything that's indicative of high estrogen levels.

    Any advice input etc will be appreciated. I guess this is also an introduction thread and I can put stats if anyone is interested. Thanks!

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    numbere is offline RETIRED- Knowledgeable member
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    Quote Originally Posted by runeverything View Post
    Hi all, new here and looking for some good advice.

    Halfway through a PH cycle of DMZ stacked with Alpha-1. Already making significant gains and overall am pleased. No negative side effects other than a little tired. This is my third PH cycle but has been a while since my last one.

    I have here nolvadex , clomid, lean xtreme, and glycobol. Yes I know I should have everything planned out beforr starting my cycle, so please nobody blast me on that. I've been talking to others and am seeking more information so that I can run the most effective and safe PCT.

    My plans are to do a four week Pct:
    Nolvadex 40/20/10/10
    Clomid 100/50/50
    Lean Xtreme (for cortisol control)
    Glycobol for Atp

    Is it ok to run nolva and clomid together. This is what my buddy told me to do and he has done a number of cycles with PH's and real gear. I also have a estrogen Aromatase inhibitor with a suicide blocker. Should i be taking that right now, on cycle? I am not experiencing anything that's indicative of high estrogen levels.

    Any advice input etc will be appreciated. I guess this is also an introduction thread and I can put stats if anyone is interested. Thanks!
    At 22 years old you should stop using PHs.

    They are just as bad if not worse for you than steroids .

    Nolva and clomid should be used together because they work in synergy.

    The dosages should be similar to those below.

    You don't need anything else for PCT.

    The Lean Xtreme and Glycobol you bought was a complete waste of money.

    nolva 40/20/20/20
    clomid 75/50/50/50

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    runeverything is offline New Member
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    Figured the other stuff was unnecessary but bought it anyway. Thanks for the advice. What about the AI though, should I be using that on cycle or don't worry about it unless I run into problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by runeverything View Post
    Figured the other stuff was unnecessary but bought it anyway. Thanks for the advice. What about the AI though, should I be using that on cycle or don't worry about it unless I run into problems?
    Honestly I have no idea whether you need an AI.

    This is one of the issues about a PH cycle, it's difficult if not impossible to get solid advice because the ingredients are constantly changing and no one is an expert on their administration.

    If your AI is like your other products then the main ingredient is probably zinc and it will only slightly lower your e2.

    IMO you should just stop before you screw yourself up and are asking how to fix ed and lack of sex drive.

    If you continue then the smart move would be so get a hormone panel that includes a sensitive e2 assay in order to figure out exactly what's going on inside.

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    From what I understand, an AI post cycle is generally not reccomended since they totally shut down all estrogen levels and do nothing to kickstart your Lh and Fsh production of testosterone . That's what the clomid and nolvadex do so well, they bind to the estrogen receptors but do not actually allow estrogen levels to rise. Of course, I only know a little and certainly don't have the vast experience that others do. But my question about the AI on cycle..whether it was really necessary or not. Not going to get an expensive levels test done, really can't afford something like that.

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    As for my cycle, I'm running 45 mg of demonize dmz daily

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    Also stacking that with 2 caps of Alpha-1 a day (I think they're 20mg caps).

    So essentially I'm taking super dmz or whatever that forumla is where everything is pre stacked. I think I am taking more dmz though.

    I'm on week 2 of 4 weeks, and am really starting to feel effects. I stand 5'8",weigh 185, benched 315x1 the other day and squatted 405x4. My deadlift has always been a little behind and I'm focusing on that, right now only being able to pull 405 raw.

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