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    Pct Questions including first cyle!

    Hello, I've read the thread about beginner first cycle FYI before someone link's it but i have some questions hence why i am posting here.

    Planning to run Test Enan 2ml per week at (500mg) so would be pinning once per week for ten weeks

    Pct am going to run Nov + Clo although not 100% sure on dosages i was told as i'm only running ten weeks i should Pct for two not 4? is this true and reliable?

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    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    That should do the trick, 4 weeks is definitely the way to go for your PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by boisebeast View Post
    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    That should do the trick, 4 weeks is definitely the way to go for your PCT
    I'm assuming what you posted is the doses of each for the 4 week Pct?

    Thanks on quick rep though!

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    The way to read it is:

    100mg clomid every day for week 1, 50mg every day for week 2, 50 mg every day for week 3 etc...

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    and run the novla in the same aspect of dose daily per week?

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    Yes exactly

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    No need to front load nolva for 2 weeks. 40/20/20/20 should be fine.

    You should extend your cycle to 12 weeks and pin twice a week too.
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    are you really gonna pin one shot of 500mg? (2ml at once?)

    why not 250mg/ml every 3-4 days?

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    My test comes in 10ml vials was why i was going to do 10 not 12 plus it's only a first would it make that much overall difference?

    And regards to pinning, Surely pinning the 500 meg once per week is more effiecient than a 1ml pin twice per week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    No need to front load nolva for 2 weeks. 40/20/20/20 should be fine.

    You should extend your cycle to 12 weeks and pin twice a week too.
    Is the dose posted above suitable dosing for the Clo for the 4 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabby1991 View Post
    My test comes in 10ml vials was why i was going to do 10 not 12 plus it's only a first would it make that much overall difference?

    And regards to pinning, Surely pinning the 500 meg once per week is more effiecient than a 1ml pin twice per week?
    More efficient because you only have to pin once but you will more stable levels if you pin twice a week.

    Get another vial of test and run 12 weeks, it won't kick in for most people til around week 6.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jabby1991 View Post
    Is the dose posted above suitable dosing for the Clo for the 4 weeks?
    Yes, although 100mg per day might be a little high in terms of sides. 75mg for the first week would be enough.

    Assuming you have your ai, Hcg and a suitable diet and training programme?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    More efficient because you only have to pin once but you will more stable levels if you pin twice a week.

    Get another vial of test and run 12 weeks, it won't kick in for most people til around week 6.



    Yes, although 100mg per day might be a little high in terms of sides. 75mg for the first week would be enough.

    Assuming you have your ai, Hcg and a suitable diet and training programme?
    Have Diet and training in check, Didn't grab Hcg as was told not worth running on a low and beginner cycle as is Test E only.

    Is the difference between week 10-12 that much then? or it's just more dependent on how you react to the gear overall not the dosing period?

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    As I said, for most it doesn't start kicking in til around week. If you stop at 10 weeks you are short changing yourself imho.

    And get some Hcg , here is why

    HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections
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    Like BIB has stated, grab yourself another vial of test and some HCG . You might as well spend an extra couple bucks to get the most out of your first cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livinlean View Post
    Like BIB has stated, grab yourself another vial of test and some HCG. You might as well spend an extra couple bucks to get the most out of your first cycle.
    If i open the third bottle for just one use how long will it last once i've used some of it? Also i know some drugs you need to store in fridge? do i need to keep my test e in a fridge? or will just in a room temp area be ok for it? Same with Pct storage?

    I keep getting mixed comment's on the HCG though some people tell me to use it first cycle and some people have said not to use for a first only Test E Cycle..

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    Hcg needs to be refrigerated, test and pct do not. Up to you whether you use it or not.People saying you don't need it on your first cycle probably don't understand it. Ask them why not and see if you get a detailed answer that's as good as the link I gave you that suggests you do use it. Saying you don't need Hcg first cycle is a bit like saying to a girl, you won't get pregnant the first time you have sex; she might not but she also might. If you want to potentially compromise recovery for a fraction of the cost the overall cycle that's up to you.

    Your vial will last beyond this cycle but you won't get 10ml out of each vial anyway. Even if they do have 10ml in them there will be some wastage so the insurance of an extra bottle is always worth it (what if you even drop and break one?).
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