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    Kai Lover is offline Banned
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    Taking an anabolic during PCT (or anti-catabolic)

    I'd say about 90 to 95% of bodybuilders agree that the ideal PCT for any cycle less than 16 weeks is something similar to this:
    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20

    Some people add an AI such as Arimidex in with that. This is what Pheedno's recommends in his stickied PCT thread:

    (taken from

    PCT for cycles 8-16wks:
    Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva
    What about adding an anabolic (or anti-catabolic) agent in with that?

    Some people take Proviron (a.k.a Mesterolone) during PCT @ 50mg ED and they say it helps, although I don't understand how it doesn't suppress their HPTA.

    I'm considering taking a low dose of Clenbuterol during my next PCT, about 20mcg per day for its anti-catabolic effect. I wonder would that help?

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    While proviron is rather mild in its supressive nature,
    I'd say avoid avoid avoid during PCT.
    Cause there's 2 reasons proviron is mild on the HPTA;
    1) it's not estrogenic; estrogen is a more powerful inhibitor than T on T production, hence why an AI will increase natural T production quite a lot,
    and why SERMs do the same.
    During PCT one is running SERMs, so this point is invalid during PCT anyway.
    2) it's not progestagenic
    That includes many AAS, T included.
    3) it's mild binding to the AR
    This point is the only relevant one during PCT.
    And couple that with the fact proviron isn't very anabolic ,
    by which I mean, less anabolic than test. (Maybe not mg for mg)

    So what is to be gained by using it?
    My rationale is that any androgenic punch proviron delivers will be countered by less production of T.
    People even avoid hcg during PCT, so proviron is definitely best avoided I'd think.
    The SERMs should keep natural T up and any mix with an AAS will just result in less T.

    There's theoretical use of DBOL also during PCT, since some study's show that a low enough dose will be a little anabolic without full suppression,
    but I still don't think that's worth it during PCT.

    If you want an anabolic during PCT that also might help,
    use hgh or some variant of IGF1.

    We know even SARMs are supressive, so the ones we have know isn't suitable for PCT either.
    But it may be a SARM on the drawing board that would work for this,
    I just haven't seen it yet.

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    Kai Lover is offline Banned
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    What about Clenbuterol at a low dose (20-40mcg per day) for the four weeks of PCT?

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