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    trees22 is offline New Member
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    Suggestions for a really late PCT cycle

    Long story short, about 3 years ago I took a test/deca stack, but messed up the PCT by only taking half a cycle of nolva. Don't ask me why, it just happened. My body recovered somewhat, but never really to the full extent so I am planning another pct cycle.

    I'm planning on taking a clomid/nolva stack, just wondering what you would recommend for timing/dosage.

    Theres alot of information about this stuff, but its all for directly after a cycle of gear. Any wisdom for just a cycle of PCT?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Windex is offline Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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    What do you mean by your body only recovered somewhat?

    What symptoms or problems are you experiencing that is making you think like that? Do you have any bloodwork or is just anecdotal based on how you feel about your body?

    Start with bloodwork before anything. You can't just go in blind and guess what will fix an issue you don't even know exists or the root cause.

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    If you didn't bounce back after 3 year's off. More pct probably won't do much.

    You'll temporarily boost test levels while on pct drugs, but will most likely be returned to current state once out of your system

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    I have a bit of gyno, low energy, bloating, loss of libido and mild ed. I've taken a blood test before to measure testosterone levels but it came back above normal range. A little confused about the results there lol.

    I'm thinking to give this a shot anyways... probably going to stick to clomid and nolva for 4 weeks, 50/20 the whole way then.

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    Windex is offline Staff ~ HRT Optimization Specialist
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    Quote Originally Posted by trees22 View Post
    I have a bit of gyno, low energy, bloating, loss of libido and mild ed. I've taken a blood test before to measure testosterone levels but it came back above normal range. A little confused about the results there lol.

    I'm thinking to give this a shot anyways... probably going to stick to clomid and nolva for 4 weeks, 50/20 the whole way then.
    You need to do bloodwork - full panel not just testosterone . You could end up feeling worse after without investigating first.

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    What things specifically should i look for to be inclufed in the blood panel then? The way it's done for my doctor is I can pick what I want them to test for in the blood.

    While my bloodwork is being done, I would like to do more research then, so heres a question about hcg . I read that it suppresses LH and FSH so it is counter productive to a pct, but what about when you stop hcg and it leaves your system? Will there be a negative feedback loop then where you're body senses decreasing testosterone from your balls and stimulate LH and FSH then? If the bloodwork comes back and I wish to do a pct cycle, I might do hcg first, then as my body is recovering from hcg i will start nolva and clomid. My idea is to recover some normal functioning of the balls with hcg, then when I stop hcg, to start clomid and nolva, which hopefully hcg helps the pct by the negative feedback loop I mentioned above.

    Thanks again for the responses guys really appreciate it

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    This is what you need to look at

    - Cortisol
    - Thyroid
    - Lipids + Cholesterol
    - SHBG
    - Estradiol
    - LH/FSH
    - Free Testosterone
    - RBC
    - Hematocrit
    - Hemoglobin

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