Increasing HCG end of cycle?

**CA_DXB_85** · 06-16-2019, 10:21 AM

Hi Guys,
Was running HCG @ 250iu 2x week since I started this cycle (test e @ 250mg/wk, deca @ 500mg/wk and mast @ 400mg/wk).

I am in the last 3 weeks of the cycle and have stopped deca and will switch to test p for the last 2 weeks and start using adex @ 0.25 eod so I can start PCT about 3 days after last test p injection.

I've heard that you need roughly around 1000iu/wk of HCG to maintain close to normal testes function. Is there any harm of switching to 250iu eod of HCG (4x a week)?
I thought that would put me in a better position going into PCT plus in previous cycles, I didn't run HCG throughout the cycle and only did 10 days before PCT at 500iu/day so I thought 250iu eod shouldn't cause any harm.

Thank you

**Windex** · 06-16-2019, 01:13 PM

The dose is fine. Tons of HRT protocols have upwards of 1500IU per week and even fertility protocols can be 1000IU EOD.

Start HCG from Day 1 on future cycles.

**CA_DXB_85** · 06-16-2019, 02:27 PM

Thanks for the response bro

**Littlearnie** · 06-20-2019, 06:47 PM

Can I ask how you have felt on this cycle? Particularly interested in libido and the phrase “Deca dick”...

**Windex** · 06-21-2019, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Littlearnie

Can I ask how you have felt on this cycle? Particularly interested in libido and the phrase “Deca dick”...

Deca Dick is the result of bad cycle planning in my opinion.

**Littlearnie** · 06-24-2019, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Windex

Deca Dick is the result of bad cycle planning in my opinion.

Can you elaborate?
You mean like controlling prolactin/estrogen?
What shuld you be stacking with Deca ?

**GearHeaded** · 06-24-2019, 07:14 PM

Deca can cause deca dick for some guys due to it NOT being androgenic or estrogenic (you need androgens and estrogen to sexually function). deca does NOT convert to an androgen (and is not androgenic itself) it converts to DHN rather then the androgenic DHT . DHN binds to receptors and occupies them, yet does not illicit androgenic effect . Deca also does not 'barely' aromatize (despite crappy online profiles that say it does) and your blood serum levels of estrogen will likely go down when taking it (unless your adding an exogenous from of estrogen supply).. the male sexual libido is controlled by estrogen, and the ability to use that libido with an erection is controlled by DHT . Deca essentially gets rid of both of those things (estrogen and dht).
theres also the progestin/prolactin effects that can happen to guys that are sensitive to that.

as Windex essentially said though. plan your deca cycle out properly and it should not be an issue.
-add an Androgen to your cycle , like Masteron , which also have progestin blunting effects.
-add an estrogen to your cycle, like Dbol , which will raise blood serum levels of highly bioavailable form of E
-lazy - then add enough Test to your cycle , which provides some androgen and estrogen load at the same time
-lower SHBG with Proviorn to free up more DHT
etc..

**CA_DXB_85** · 06-30-2019, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Littlearnie

Can I ask how you have felt on this cycle? Particularly interested in libido and the phrase “Deca dick”...

Sorry for the late response as I have been busy.
My sex drive was ridiculous throughout the cycle! I felt like I was 14 or 16 again lol.
Test at the dose used was more than enough to keep my systems functioning properly and the Masteron there, which I used mainly for its progestin blunting effects, provided enough DHT incase I didn't have enough from the test dose.

Windex absolutely nailed it when he said deca dick is a result of bad cycle planning. You can counter every bad side effect out there if u do enough reading and understand what each compound is made of and what it does.

**DeeCee112** · 07-03-2019, 02:50 PM

Let us know how your pct goes, this is a cycle I'd be interested in running next, how did you like it?

**CA_DXB_85** · 07-12-2019, 05:46 AM

Originally Posted by DeeCee112

Let us know how your pct goes, this is a cycle I'd be interested in running next, how did you like it?

I plan on starting PCT after this weekend... I was honestly planning on going on trt but my wife came clean about how she cannot live without kids (I didn't want) and she explained her point of view and how she felt so I kinda felt selfish and agreed to try next year... I basically will not be able to use shit for 1 year plus probably (until we try and hopefully things work out).
How did I like this cycle? I absolutely loved it! Great gains muscle and strength wise but certainly the strength gains were pretty darn good (I think it has to do with the masteron as I never tried this before). If u read and prepare properly, you should have no issues with the sides at all. Just listen your body

**CA_DXB_85** · 07-15-2019, 09:58 AM

Guys, I have a question and always wondered if this makes any difference:
Taking the entire Nolva and clomid dosage at the same time vs. Splitting? Any advantages or disadvantages at all? I have always taken them in 2 dosages, 1 in the AM and another before bed...

Thanks

**Windex** · 07-15-2019, 06:45 PM

Some people get drowsy so they take it before bed. Other people split the dosage to mitigate side effects. If there haven't been any apparent issues then it's not really going to matter.

HRT affecting fertility is a very poorly understood misconception. There's also 101 variables that go into pregnancy so it's easy to scapegoat TRT as the problem.

It could be a matter of the females reproductive system, not enough frequency, a poor HRT program (Test + HCG is not enough), and many other factors.