Thinking of doing this as my cycle

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 01:42 PM

2 bottles of sustanon or cypionate 250mg/10ml(sust retains more water, don't know which I want yet)

2 bottles of deca 300mg/10ml

3 bottles of equipoise 200mg/10ml

pct arimidex , clomids, nolva and hcg

Test 1-3 250mgs 4-9 500mgs 10-12 250mgs

Deca 1-3 300mgs 4-7 600mgs 8-10 300mgs

Equi 1-3 300mgs 4-9 600mgs 10-12 300mgs

Arimidex 1-12 .5mgs

pct

I want to know if this sounds good... I also want to know if I should use sust or cyp? And how much hcg do I use during the cycle to prevent testies for shrinking?

I will post pics once I start, In a bout a week. Just have to figure out everything first.. This is my fourth cycle, but havn't done aas in three and a half years, So i'm feeling fresh, and have come far naturaly.

**jon77** · 08-21-2007, 01:46 PM

Stats?

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 01:49 PM

225 lbs 6'3, 25years old

And my little bro's doing it with me, He's 5'9 165 lbs

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 01:52 PM

i have about 15% bf and my bro has about 10%

**jon77** · 08-21-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by JuicyJuiceface

And my little bro's doing it with me, He's 5'9 165 lbs

Uhh, how old is he?

**Johny-too-small** · 08-21-2007, 02:03 PM

Your cycle is retarded. You need to do a hell of a lot more research.

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:03 PM

He is 20

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:05 PM

why is it retarted? I've done my research, explain your reasoning

**Johny-too-small** · 08-21-2007, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by JuicyJuiceface

I've done my research

No, you have not. Keep trying though.

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:09 PM

I asked you to explain yourself.. Can you do that?

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:10 PM

Help me instead of being unhelpful

**jon77** · 08-21-2007, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by JuicyJuiceface

225 lbs 6'3, 25years old

And my little bro's doing it with me, He's 5'9 165 lbs

First start off with reading this...
Beginner's first diet, feedback appreciated

Have your little bro read this...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234 < click on second thread in here.

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:25 PM

Thank you jon77, I have a pretty good understanding of the diet and the rest portion, Just really want to bulk up and lean out... johnny 2 small seems to be quite critical about my cycle, Do you see a reason for that, without being rude, I'm looking for help and dont mind constructive critisism.

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:27 PM

Should I cut out the equi and keep it for the end or switch to winni? And should i add d-bols for the first 4 weeks at 25mgs ed?

**ottomaddox** · 08-21-2007, 02:29 PM

Why are you pyramiding your doses?

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:36 PM

I Liked the results I got last time when I did that, I kept more and found less sides and easyer pct, worked better with my body and found it easyer on the body.

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 02:38 PM

My balls shrunk the last time I jumped into a high dose of test, better to work up, and slowly com off, plus I want to know how much hcg to add in during my cycle, is 1000ius a week ok?

**jon77** · 08-21-2007, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by JuicyJuiceface

johnny 2 small seems to be quite critical about my cycle, Do you see a reason for that, without being rude

Yes I do. Alot of peeps seem to think that they can come in and read the steroid profiles only and decide their cycle. The steroids only account for about 20% of any cycle you do. They will do nothing except royally harm your body, unless you have proper diet, training routing, and pct. Frustration sets in on older,more respected members when they have to deal with these situations one right after the other, when all you need to do is read more and make out a diet plan,training schedule, ect. They may make you frustrated with short, lame ass remarks. but usually when they do this, they are all hinting around to use the search button.....I hope you understand a little better now cause I'm tired of typing and I don't know of any better way of explaining it....

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 03:31 PM

I know proper diet and workout, I am not a beginer and was at one point 250 pounds at 8% bf, and did tren a and sust mix, looking for my next and decided on this cycle for a vascular and mature look. I might add d-bols at 25mgs ed and I liked the results I got from equi, but might change to winni

**jon77** · 08-21-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by JuicyJuiceface

I know proper diet and workout, I am not a beginer and was at one point 250 pounds at 8% bf, and did tren a and sust mix, looking for my next and decided on this cycle for a vascular and mature look. I might add d-bols at 25mgs ed and I liked the results I got from equi, but might change to winni

Cool, keep us posted...

**JuicyJuiceface** · 08-21-2007, 06:32 PM

I will, once I've fully made up my mind on the details. Really want to know if their's any difference between cyp and sust? I did sust and had very good results, but should I switch to cyp?