My SARMS S4 log

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my before and after triceps photos clearly shows fat loss...

My SARMs S4 Log

muscle gain was probably minimal, i gained allot of strength lifting heavier and therefore gaining muscles...

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What sort of muscle gains are possible? Im interested in gaining muscle but it sure seems a bit fishy if people say they are gaining muscle and losing fat simultaneously. Not saying anyone is lying, it's just physiologically extremely difficult to do both during the same 6 or 8 week period. I'm interested in the ability to increase protein synthesis and actually put on some significant weight in the form of muscle. SARMS are also used for cachexia, and i believe at low dose they increase weight, not just maintain it. Maybe someone that is doing a longer cycle can obtain hydrostatic weigh-in so we can truly determine if there is a significant fat loss while say, possibly maintaining body weight.

If you noticed, most of the testers were cutting, not bulking. For me, I was dong net negative calories and still added more lean muscle while burning fat. If you did a bulking cycle, I'm sure you could add more muscle due to the strength increase. See Okinawa's log - he put on tremendous weight doing S4 and PH.