Endus's Sarm S4 (lyons) log
Warning - this post is long and I'm letting you know up front that I'm not the greatest wordsmith nor a grammatical cop.
This is 8th day from start of my SARM S4 cycle (10/31/09) and I believe I have enough data/observations to start a log at this point - hope you find it useful.
First my stat -
Age 44 - really ugly fat bastard :)
Weight 200
BF - 20% been on cutting cycle, started at 25% and hope to gp down to 15% or less.
Previous cycles - done Test E in my mid 30's and finished Bold/Havoc PH cycle this past Aug.
known Issues - I have a right elbow tendinitis and a left knee (runners knee) pain. The right elbow pain only affect certain movements (specific bicep workout or upright row are tough) but does not interfere with any other movements. No problem with leg movement for any exercises.
Point of interest - I was primarily interested in SARM S4 for a TRT application. It seem to have all of the plus without the side effect. If this doesn't work, I'm going to start a Test E cycle first, then probably TRT later on. By the way, I did take a picture of myself but after seeing how some of you guys are so in shape, I'm just to self conscious to post. I hope to post when I reach my goal - hope you understand.
So from my college chem/bio days, here's entry from my lab journal (I'm the test mice),
Pre - start:
Ordered from Lyon on Tuesday night, delivered on Saturday morning (10/31). No delivery notice was sent to my email account but I've check their website (login required) and it showed the tracking info - so I knew when it was going to be here.
Day 1 thru 3:
No effect. Dosage was 50mg divided into 3 un-equal doses (1ml = 50mg, 1/4 ml at 9:00am, 1/2 ml at 4:30 pm and 1/4 ml at 11:00pm) The mixture has slight hint of menthol with head scalping benzene taste. Yuck. Its really good to have a small treat like candy or chocolate to get rid of the awful taste.
Day 4:
No effect. I did noticed a slight dizziness immediately after 5:00pm and 11:00pm doses.
Day 5:
No day time effect. Had a great shoulder workout and increased my seated shoulder press by 20lb. I can't attribute this to SARM as this is happens to me occasionally with burst of energy/strength. We'll see if next week's shoulder workout will confirm this strength increase.
Panic Attack? After taking my last dose, I had my first vision problem. The vision toward either side was severely limited and had a bit of panic attack as it was quite severe or was not expecting it at this point. Its a very eery feeling where you could see things in front of you but limited in field of vision to the side and its blurred. I've lay ed on my bed feeling panicked but by 2:00am, the effect have subsided a bit. Fell a sleep after that.
Day 6:
I haven't noticed anything special during the day. I've did noticed that everything is much more yellower than normal. Didn't pay particular attention to this effect. The night vision effect is still present but not as severe as yesterday.
The vision issue is not constant. It seems to come and go. At most, I'm feeling it for about 1/2 hour, then everything is fine. And later, get slight less severe then disappear again.
The last dose (11:00pm) wasn't as bad as yesterday but I definitely do notice something right after taking SARM. Sort of bit dizzness then vision is changed - blurred, and bit later, night vision issue.
Note: based on half-life discussion on the board, I'm thinking if changing the dose frequency will have any effect. I will try something different tomorrow to see if it does.
Day 7:
I've decided to change the frequency to twice a day instead of three. Today, I will be taking 9:00am and 5:00pmdoses and skip the 11:00pm dose - Still 50mg/2x total.
I took the last dose at 4:30pm.
Around 6:30pm, I went shopping with my wife and on the way back at 7:20pm, on a particularly dark street, I couldn't see my wife sitting right next to me. This is very dis-heartening.
At 9:00pm, I had to go out again on same streets and I did not have any issue with side vision.
Note/Conjecture - this is probably a good point for discussion about half life. I think there is a very specific active period for SARM (Lyon's version anyway). This is based on how it affect my vision at certain time after each dose. I hope others could duplicate this scenario to see if effect is same.
Noticed yellow tint is present at all time.
At 11:00pm I did not notice any vision issue. Slightly blurry at times, but nothing like day 4-5.
I was going to take another dose at 11:00pm to see if symptom will return but didn't want to risk it. The vision problem will be issue for many people and if it gets more severe, I will probably terminate this cycle - lets hope not.
Day 8 - Today, I've decided to change the frequency again - to once a day. I took the only dose of 50mg at 9:30am. Today was off day.
Noticed slight blurring but nothing that couldn't be handled. No yellow tint all day but came back around 4:40pm (right around when sun is nearly gone). By 5:10pm, the tint was severe (outside was dark at this point).
The night vision - other than slight blurriness, it was fine (thank god). Again, I think there's definitely half life issue that could be worked out so that night vision issue can be minimized. For example, if I could figure out when to take it so that it will still be active for my work out session but be past the half life point by time evening comes around. I hope someone else could duplicate this - I will try more next week to see if there's optimal time.
Note: my joint/tendinitis issue is about same or actually got worst.
Edit - I forgot, I got some Acne problem yesterday/today. I've noticed that I'm getting mild acne under my chin and on my chest. I don't usually get Acne, so I assume this is from SARM? I haven't read this issue before. Got some benzoil pad to deal with this issue.
Well, that it for now. Next week will be interesting as SARM has already taken effect on my body (vision wise anyway). Tomorrow is my chest day - I hope I could lift 1000lb :)
Cheers!