Adex necessary for this cycle?

[El Sac]

Sup, fellas? Startin' a 10-weeker for ole time's sake.

400/Test-C (wks 1-10), 200/Deca (wks 1-9), Dbol (first 10 days).

Clomid: 100/50/50/50 (wks 13-16) Nolva: 40/40/20/20 (wks 13-16).

THREE QUESTIONS:

1) I wanna take Adex/.5ed (wks 1-10)...is that necessary with only 400/Test & 200/Deca? Since I'm an err-on-the-side-of-caution kinda guy, lemme rephrase: Is there any reason NOT to use the AI during the cycle?

2) Am I correct in stopping the Deca a week early so that 2wks after my last Test pin I'll be good to start PCT?

***I know I'm showing my age here: it's just that I seem to remember a day when PCT was started immediately (if not a week PRIOR to the end of the cycle). My main question--though--is about the adex thruout. I used to do a gram (plus a stack) (and some stacking topped with a stacker . So adex was a no-brainer. I guess it can't HURT, right? Did I just answer my own post?

[El Sac]

I guess I meant (wks 12-15) for PCT...sry

[austinite]

Wrong section.

1. AI is absolutely necessary. Although your dose seems a bit extreme. 0.25 EOD would be a better start until you get blood work mid-cycle to verify.

2. Yes.

I don't think you should mess with Deca at all. Sounds like this is your first cycle. Have a look at this thread...

My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[El Sac]

DAMMIT (that was only TWO questions, wasn't it?). Geez! Lemme save you the trouble: "What a DUMBASS!!!"

[El Sac]

Apreesh, austinite. Def not first cycle. Been 5-6yrs, but like I said, I used to do a lot heavier dosages (where AI's were a no-brainer). My question was: is it necesarry with such a low dose? My first cycle (ever) (12yrs ago) was 750/Sust and 600/Deca (which lookin back was a "monster" for a 1st cycle, but I responded great, as I always have with any/everything I've taken (even Tren ). The Deca dsnt concern me (unless you were makin a totally different point that I missed completely)(in which case, I apologize). Regardless, seems like you addressed my concern (i.e. use the AI)(even at a small does of Test), so thanks for that. Further, you're probably right...(.25 is probably plenty). Again, I'm used to heavier totals, so I problyndont need as much as I used to take.

You agree? Or are we on two diff pages?

And did you say this was the wrong section b/c my question was about an AI (and not a SARM)? B/c I didn't see a section or AI-only. My bad if my lazy-ass didn't look hard enough.

[austinite]

Well, I don't see any references to SARMs . - This mostly cycle advice so the Q/A would suffice. No big deal, just saying you'd get more feedback there.

The issue I have with deca (and no offense please) is that your questions are very entry level and indicative of a first cycle. So although you've cycled before, it's not a bad idea to "Get back to basics".

But either way, use an AI on cycle, always. Keep prami on hand should to combat progestin side effects should e2 not be managed properly.

Good luck.

[El Sac]

no offense taken . Ive been out the game a while, so i think my verbiage is probly giving the wrong the impression (it's not as sharp/current as it used to be). I feel ya tho, and I appreciate the advice (thats why I registered n posted) so thanks...just wanted to be sure.

Stay cool, girl

[Rida5d]

Why are u running deca ? Joints relief?

[austinite]

Why are u running deca? Joints relief?

Good point. That's not a muscle building dose.

[El Sac]

When did Deca become a controversial stacking-component? Always thought it was pretty standard. My "thought process" was: I'm choosing 400/Test rather than 600+ since I'm getting back started after 5yrs out, and I kinda figured the Deca should be less than the Test. Of course, maybe that's just a misguided thought. I decided to eliminate Winny since My bf% is 15% so i figured itd be a waste. And Im just trying not dumb-down the cycle anymore (I already feel like a panzy for only doing 400/Cyp).

So are you guys suggesting I don't do Deca at ALL, or are u saying if Im gonna do it, up it to 3-400? Im confused as to why the Deca is such a concern? Dont get me wrong, I appreciate (and am interested in ur thoughts), if I wasnt, i wouldnt be here So thanks--genuinely.

[El Sac]

and (austin) u really think my e2's would be a concern with this dose (even with using adex from day 1)? i mean theyre always a "concern" but ur comment made it seem like maybe i was pushin the envelope on somthin.

[Rida5d]

If you are experienced enough, if you determined to use nandrolone then the 200 mg per week is good enough to lubricate your joints not building muscle.
If that is your goal, that would be a good dosage..
Now if your goal from running deca is to build muscle then you should increase the dosage to 400 mg per week,
I've ran test deca at the same dosage and had no issues.. All u have to do is manage your estrogen , and get some caber to eliminate any chance of elevated prolactin levels.. Caber will be a good weapon to maintain a healthy libido while on deca..
I've Ben hearing a lot that test should be ran higher than deca, and I find myself asking, why if u running test at a maintenance dosage?
I would like to understand the science behind that.
The test dosage is much related to your goals.
That's my opinion and I'm here to learn

[El Sac]

I hear ya, bro. Thanks for the tips. Good lookin out. Peace

[BarryKic]

no sorry , the D-bol is for week 1-4 only, left that out by mistake. im also running a liver detoxifier with them all

[i_SLAM_cougars]

It’s a six year old question. The OP isn’t even around.

[JaneDoe]

Very old post