BK's cutting log

[Kibble]

I am on my second cycle, and the point of the cycle is to cut bodyfat.

Currently running a 12 week cycle.

750mg Test Enanthate
450mg Tren Enanthate
80mcg Injectable clen (2 weeks on, 2 weeks off)
50mcg T3 (Only during clen)
Keto (Only during Clen)
Tbol (70mg weeks 2-5)
Proviron 100mg.

Cardio for 45 minutes EOD. My only carbs are coming from sweet potatoes, whole weat bagels, fruits and green vegetables. Protein is coming from lean beef, white meat chicken, flounder, whole eggs.

Only one cheat day every other week. I am eating roughly 3,000 cals a day.

My goal is to preserve as much muscle as possible with the AAS, and drop as much weight as possible with the Clen, Yohimbine, T3 and Keto. I started week 2 3 days ago. Weight is down from 242 to 238. I am being advised to drop the Tren Enanthate by a respected member on this board, so I am working on that now. My before picture is my new avatar picture. It was taken 2 weeks ago before I started to cut. I am 242, with roughly 17-18%bf. I gained 2-3%bf on my last test cycle, because I did not do cardio during my 14 week cycle. Hoping for 220lbs near 10%bf

[Just2Big]

Im not big on fruits durring a cut. How are the 3000 cal compaired to your TDEE? I thought you got good results from your last cycle. Hope this one goes well for you.

[D7M]

I agree, I don't see the need for tren at this point.

What's your exact diet?

[Kibble]

Im not big on fruits durring a cut. How are the 3000 cal compaired to your TDEE? I thought you got good results from your last cycle. Hope this one goes well for you.

My last cycle caused me to gain an excessive amount of bodyfat. I did no cardio, and didn't have a strict diet. I ate tons of yellow rice, and whatever meat I could get my hands on. My main focus now to to keep the muscle that I made, while dropping my bodyfat. If fruits are really that bad then I will drop them- no problem.

I agree, I don't see the need for tren at this point.

What's your exact diet?

My diet always consists of the same meals, but always in a different order. My work schedule changes every other week. This week it is from midnight to 8am... so it throws me off. But here is my basic diet

7-9am (whenever I wake up) 1 scoop whey, 5 whole eggs, whole weat bagel, omega 3-6-9 spread

11am - whole chicken breast, 2 small sweet potatoes

1130-100 gym

100pm - 2 scoops whey, 5 g creatine, fruit

3pm - 2 whole chicken breast, 2 small sweet potatoes

5pm - dinner with family (Usually chicken with vegetables, and a white carb). I always skip the white rice, potatoes etc

7pm - 1lb beef cubes simmered with 1.5 carrots

930pm - 10-12 oz steak, 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter

10pm bedtime.

I have stayed on this perfectly for the past 3 weeks. Last night was the exception (my birthday)

Throughout the day I only drink water.
Supplements are:

Creatine Mono
BCAAs
O.m.e.g.a. 3-6-9
Multi V
Taurine
Aspirin

[Kibble]

So is there a reason that I should drop the Tren? I understand that hsi is only my second cycle, and that I am going against the advice from the Vets/Mods here. I also know that Tren E is ill-advised for a virgin Tren user. Lovbyts talked me into stopping the Tren. My last Tren shot was the day before yesterday, but I have been using it for 2 weeks now, so it will take time to clear.

How would you build an effective cutting stack with:

50ml Mast Prop 100
20ml Tren E 200
36 Aubuhrains
36 Omnadrens
25ml Test E 250/Tren E 150 blend
Proviron
Tbol
Clen
T3
Injectable Clen + Yohimbine
Keto
Caber
Nolva
Clomid
hCG
?

What could I do with that to be effective?

[energizer bunny]

good luck mate......ill be following.........side note,,,,,,not from experience i may add but isnt that a lot of chemicals for your second cycle?

[Kibble]

Yeah, but T3 and Clen are amazing together, and Keto helps. Proviron for AI, then test and tren for aas. That includes a lot of compounds, but hopefully I would be fine. I am about to head to the gym in a few minutes to knock out some cardio

[D7M]

My diet always consists of the same meals, but always in a different order. My work schedule changes every other week. This week it is from midnight to 8am... so it throws me off. But here is my basic diet

7-9am (whenever I wake up) 1 scoop whey, 5 whole eggs, whole weat bagel, omega 3-6-9 spread

11am - whole chicken breast, 2 small sweet potatoes

1130-100 gym

100pm - 2 scoops whey, 5 g creatine, fruit

3pm - 2 whole chicken breast, 2 small sweet potatoes

5pm - dinner with family (Usually chicken with vegetables, and a white carb). I always skip the white rice, potatoes etc

7pm - 1lb beef cubes simmered with 1.5 carrots

930pm - 10-12 oz steak, 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter

10pm bedtime.

I have stayed on this perfectly for the past 3 weeks. Last night was the exception (my birthday)

Throughout the day I only drink water.
Supplements are:

Creatine Mono
BCAAs
O.m.e.g.a. 3-6-9
Multi V
Taurine
Aspirin

^^Do you have macros?

So is there a reason that I should drop the Tren? I understand that hsi is only my second cycle, and that I am going against the advice from the Vets/Mods here. I also know that Tren E is ill-advised for a virgin Tren user. Lovbyts talked me into stopping the Tren. My last Tren shot was the day before yesterday, but I have been using it for 2 weeks now, so it will take time to clear.

How would you build an effective cutting stack with:

50ml Mast Prop 100
20ml Tren E 200
36 Aubuhrains
36 Omnadrens
25ml Test E 250/Tren E 150 blend
Proviron
Tbol
Clen
T3
Injectable Clen + Yohimbine
Keto
Caber
Nolva
Clomid
hCG
?

What could I do with that to be effective?

I'd say not to use the Tren now simply because you don't need it at this point.

Use the least amount, and the least harsh drugs to get the job done at this point.

Imo, people get too carried away with "cutting" cycles, and really all they need it test and an possibly an oral, and let the diet and cardio do the work.

[Just2Big]

Yeah, but T3 and Clen are amazing together, and Keto helps. Proviron for AI, then test and tren for aas. That includes a lot of compounds, but hopefully I would be fine. I am about to head to the gym in a few minutes to knock out some cardio

Proviron is really not a A.I. although it may help I would still consider a real A.I. I didnt think you looked that bad after your last cycle. Def put on some fat but looked like you gaind a lot of muscle as well. If you straitend out your diet and did some cardio you would cut up nice. Whats your TDEE? You can eat fruit on a cut but they should be consumed right around your workout only. Most people would say no fruit at all.

[Kibble]

^^Do you have macros?



I'd say not to use the Tren now simply because you don't need it at this point.

Use the least amount, and the least harsh drugs to get the job done at this point.

Imo, people get too carried away with "cutting" cycles, and really all they need it test and an possibly an oral, and let the diet and cardio do the work.

I don't have macros. I can figure them out, but I do know that I am never hungry. So you think I will be fine with 10 weeks of test only? I have no problem dropping the tren. I have been out of the gym for 3 days, and I will be out for 4 more days. I pinned my bicep, and the PIP is fvcking bad. I can't even brush my teeth without being in pain.

Proviron is really not a A.I. although it may help I would still consider a real A.I. I didnt think you looked that bad after your last cycle. Def put on some fat but looked like you gaind a lot of muscle as well. If you straitend out your diet and did some cardio you would cut up nice. Whats your TDEE? You can eat fruit on a cut but they should be consumed right around your workout only. Most people would say no fruit at all.

Ok I will get some Adex. I will just get it from AR since they deliver fast.
So I will eat fruit only as a pre-workout carb source. Well, part of that source.

Thanks a lot for all of your input. I am learning a lot here

[taiboxa]

my suggestions in bold

7-9am (whenever I wake up) 1 scoop whey, 5 whole eggs, whole weat bagel, omega 3-6-9 spread
i would only do 2-3 eggs and incorp way more eggwhites

11am - whole chicken breast, 2 small sweet potatoes

1130-100 gym

100pm - 2 scoops whey, 5 g creatine, fruit

3pm - 2 whole chicken breast, 2 small sweet potatoes need a green fiberous veggie here like broccolie or asparagus

5pm - dinner with family (Usually chicken with vegetables, and a white carb). I always skip the white rice, potatoes etc

7pm - 1lb beef cubes simmered with 1.5 carrots Carrots are a bad idea especially if cooked so they become caramelized

930pm - 10-12 oz steak, 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter drop the peanut butter n' add a fiberous veggie here and maybe decrease your steak size and go for casein protein source to accommodate your steak.. i.e. cottage cheese (or fat free)

10pm bedtime.

I have stayed on this perfectly for the past 3 weeks. Last night was the exception (my birthday)

Throughout the day I only drink water.
Supplements are:

Creatine Mono
BCAAs
O.m.e.g.a. 3-6-9
Multi V
Taurine
Aspirin

also i'd like to suggest LARGE amounts of vitC is good for anti catabolism, sawl palmetto is good for your prostate when your taking tren or any aas that is in the DHT area .. also metamucil is a must.. great before bed and as a filler on cheat meals.

im huge fan of green tea extract and diet soda. (not together.. thatd be some nasty shit), also cardio is crucial imo not just for fat loss but for overall health and endurance.. i do 40min every morning.. even when bulking.. and 15min usually a high intensity PWO to really make that cardiac muscle work its ass off n' get stronger as well..

[Kibble]

my suggestions in bold


also i'd like to suggest LARGE amounts of vitC is good for anti catabolism, sawl palmetto is good for your prostate when your taking tren or any aas that is in the DHT area .. also metamucil is a must.. great before bed and as a filler on cheat meals.

im huge fan of green tea extract and diet soda. (not together.. thatd be some nasty shit), also cardio is crucial imo not just for fat loss but for overall health and endurance.. i do 40min every morning.. even when bulking.. and 15min usually a high intensity PWO to really make that cardiac muscle work its ass off n' get stronger as well..

Awesome diet suggestions. Thanks bro. I will get some vitamin c as well. I hate green tea, but I have green tea extract pills. Should I start taking those? I will do the cardio everyday too. I realized that 30 minutes eod is basically nothing. I will strive for 45-60 minutes ED on cardio. Thanks again boss. You guys are helpin more than ya could know

[taiboxa]

Awesome diet suggestions. Thanks bro. I will get some vitamin c as well. I hate green tea, but I have green tea extract pills. Should I start taking those? I will do the cardio everyday too. I realized that 30 minutes eod is basically nothing. I will strive for 45-60 minutes ED on cardio. Thanks again boss. You guys are helpin more than ya could know

sure.. but i used to just buy the GTEx pwdr in bulk and make my own caps.. but fk me that is the nastest tasting pwdr ever.. its just in most OTC GTEx supps they dont have alot of green tea in them.. its a bad ass antioxidant which is AWESOME, and it is also for metabolic purposes.. and overall health but yeah i would start taking it right away

[Kibble]

Ok grabbin some now.

Another question- would 25mcg T3 be effective with the clen? I want to keep my thyroid safe if possible. I want to take 25mcg for 2 weeks everytime I cycle the clen. Would that be enough T3 to notice anything??

[taiboxa]

Ok grabbin some now.

Another question- would 25mcg T3 be effective with the clen? I want to keep my thyroid safe if possible. I want to take 25mcg for 2 weeks everytime I cycle the clen. Would that be enough T3 to notice anything??

nah.. 25mcg is just enough to suppress ur own thyroidic activity n' replace it w/ an equivalent amount.. 50mcg would be more ideal for cutting or even 75mcg.. just increase protein intake to compensate for the catabolism since T3 is not discriminatory towards where it gets its calories from.. and since it can also increase protein synthesis it can be a valuable tool in the proper diet

[Kibble]

Ok so 50mcg. I will be running that along with 40mcg injectable clen + yohimbine. Two weeks on, two weeks off. I will make the diet changes you suggested. I just have to find a way to prepare a weeks of broccoli

[taiboxa]

Ok so 50mcg. I will be running that along with 40mcg injectable clen + yohimbine. Two weeks on, two weeks off. I will make the diet changes you suggested. I just have to find a way to prepare a weeks of broccoli

i'd opt for asparagus over broccoli since it has diuretic properties

[Aizen Sosuke]

BK what happpened to your previous cycle? The last update I got was in mid february and you still had about 4 weeks to go plus pct.

[Kibble]

I finished it. I cut it a little early. I stopped and did a 5 week pct. Then I got right back on. I am going to run a 10 week cycle, then come off for 4 months. I have no choice- cause I will be moving across the Country, and attending a few schools. I will by flying international a few times as well