The Prime explained before cycling..

[basketballfan22]

Hey marcus, I was advised to check this thread out. Even though I don't plan on using AAS for at least another year, I wanted to be as informed as possible. You say that this "priming" process should be done prior to a short cycle. Now seeing as this would be my first time using AAS, the dosage will be small. I am planning on doing "Option 2" in MickeyKnox's thread (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...look-here.html), but this is a long ester cycle that lasts for 12 weeks. Do you recommend doing "Option 3," which is a short ester cycle that lasts 8 weeks?

[marcus300]

Hey marcus, I was advised to check this thread out. Even though I don't plan on using AAS for at least another year, I wanted to be as informed as possible. You say that this "priming" process should be done prior to a short cycle. Now seeing as this would be my first time using AAS, the dosage will be small. I am planning on doing "Option 2" in MickeyKnox's thread (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...look-here.html), but this is a long ester cycle that lasts for 12 weeks. Do you recommend doing "Option 3," which is a short ester cycle that lasts 8 weeks?

I wouldn't advice anything what MickeyKnox says, he doesn't have no experience and just copy and pastes other peoples work. I would do you own research and then post your cycle and then we can all advice you the best route to take..

Priming can be done with long or short cycles, its a great tool to have when cycling.

[basketballfan22]

Okay, thanks. I was planning on posting the routine the closer I am to starting AAS. It seemed like a decent cycle and agreed more or less with a lot of the other cycles and recommendations I have read here, but I will definitely appreciate all the advice I can get. I will send you a link whenever I post my expected first-time cycle.

[marcus300]

No problem.

[austinite]

Hey marcus, I was advised to check this thread out. Even though I don't plan on using AAS for at least another year, I wanted to be as informed as possible. You say that this "priming" process should be done prior to a short cycle. Now seeing as this would be my first time using AAS, the dosage will be small. I am planning on doing "Option 2" in MickeyKnox's thread (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...look-here.html), but this is a long ester cycle that lasts for 12 weeks. Do you recommend doing "Option 3," which is a short ester cycle that lasts 8 weeks?

You're a great example for someone who researches thoroughly. I wish more people did this. For that reason you will succeed. Good luck BBFan.

[MickeyKnox]

I wouldn't advice anything what MickeyKnox says, he doesn't have no experience and just copy and pastes other peoples work. I would do you own research and then post your cycle and then we can all advice you the best route to take..

Priming can be done with long or short cycles, its a great tool to have when cycling.

Marcus when are you going to grow up? You're only severing to prove that youre unable to separate your personal issues from the goal and path of this Forum - which is to help others and point them in a safe direction. Suggesting my thread or any other thread that i have authored is not advisable is simply childish and immature.

If you cant act like an adult in here, perhaps you should take some time away from this Forum and collect your thoughts. It appears you need a vacation for awhile. Come back when you can behave like an adult and not be so rude to others who have contributed to this Forum in a positive manner.

Im actually getting PM's asking why you're so jealous of me?? So please try to use your head next time and refrain from any negative comments, because this is only backfiring for you.

[marcus300]

Marcus when are you going to grow up? You're only severing to prove that youre unable to separate your personal issues from the goal and path of this Forum - which is to help others and point them in a safe direction. Suggesting my thread or any other thread that i have authored is not advisable is simply childish and immature.

If you cant act like an adult in here, perhaps you should take some time away from this Forum and collect your thoughts. It appears you need a vacation for awhile. Come back when you can behave like an adult and not be so rude to others who have contributed to this Forum in a positive manner.

Im actually getting PM's asking why you're so jealous of me?? So please try to use your head next time and refrain from any negative comments, because this is only backfiring for you.

Don't get upset by my comments MK, I was answering someone's question with my opinion. Facts are you dont have any experience you only started cycling 12 months ago and most of what you claim is copied and pasted. I wasn't having a go at you I was stating a fact and in all honesty your high and mighty attitude makes you look even more stupid than you do already, oh you can bump that as much as you like Looks like we both get alot of pm's MK. Please stay out of my thread and anymore off topic posts will be deleted if you want to carry on please post it in the one to one section. I would rather keep this thread clean from bull so please take your attitude somewhere else.

[austinite]

Don't get upset by my comments MK, I was answering someone's question with my opinion. Facts are you dont have any experience you only started cycling 12 months ago and most of what you claim is copied and pasted. I wasn't having a go at you I was stating a fact and in all honesty your high and mighty attitude makes you look even more stupid than you do already, oh you can bump that as much as you like Looks like we both get alot of pm's MK. Please stay out of my thread and anymore off topic posts will be deleted if you want to carry on please post it in the one to one section. I would rather keep this thread clean from bull so please take your attitude somewhere else.

Agreed. Let's keep this on topic. Well said Marcus.

[boz]

Marcus at times takes advice from me little do u all know

[marcus300]

Marcus at times takes advice from me little do u all know

You look well and have experience so of course I'll listen to you boz. You taught me a lot about Australia grasshopper lol.

[auswest]

Don't get upset by my comments MK, I was answering someone's question with my opinion. Facts are you dont have any experience you only started cycling 12 months ago and most of what you claim is copied and pasted. I wasn't having a go at you I was stating a fact and in all honesty your high and mighty attitude makes you look even more stupid than you do already, oh you can bump that as much as you like Looks like we both get alot of pm's MK. Please stay out of my thread and anymore off topic posts will be deleted if you want to carry on please post it in the one to one section. I would rather keep this thread clean from bull so please take your attitude somewhere else.

Well said Marcus, agree and thanks for being honest!
I'm sure many can all agree, your knowledge and experience is priceless around here.

[auswest]

Great thread btw I just kicked off my prime for my next cycle as mentioned in my log so ill see how things go. Expecting some good things from this cycle, first time priming, so bring it on!

[tigerspawn]

Marcus thank you for all your hard work that you do on this site reading your threads is always very educational. Thank you for always being honest and for answering our questions. Since I arrived here I have been gathering as much information as I can about AAS and you have been very helpful. I was planning on using one of MickeyKnox's suggestions. (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...look-here.html) Thank you for pointing me in the correct direction.

[marcus300]

Well said Marcus, agree and thanks for being honest!
I'm sure many can all agree, your knowledge and experience is priceless around here.

Coming from someone like yourself with loads of experience and knowledge its nice to hear your support thanks

Marcus thank you for all your hard work that you do on this site reading your threads is always very educational. Thank you for always being honest and for answering our questions. Since I arrived here I have been gathering as much information as I can about AAS and you have been very helpful. I was planning on using one of MickeyKnox's suggestions. (http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...look-here.html) Thank you for pointing me in the correct direction.

Always do your research and post your questions in the Q & A so you get the right answers. It does bother me seeing members parrot information and pretend to have yrs worth of knowledge giving advice on something they have no idea about but you wont go wrong asking questions and listening to the members who know what they are talking about. Thank you for your support and comments much appreciated

[BG]

Who the hell do you think your talking to? You have some nerve, you make comments like a little girl all time about our staff. You can go bump threads and plagiarize other peoples research somewhere else if you have an issues with any more staff. You act like your somebody, what tree did you fall out of and land here? Go ahead, make a thread in the one on one.......this is going to end.

Marcus when are you going to grow up? You're only severing to prove that youre unable to separate your personal issues from the goal and path of this Forum - which is to help others and point them in a safe direction. Suggesting my thread or any other thread that i have authored is not advisable is simply childish and immature.

If you cant act like an adult in here, perhaps you should take some time away from this Forum and collect your thoughts. It appears you need a vacation for awhile. Come back when you can behave like an adult and not be so rude to others who have contributed to this Forum in a positive manner.

Im actually getting PM's asking why you're so jealous of me?? So please try to use your head next time and refrain from any negative comments, because this is only backfiring for you.

[marcus300]

Who the hell do you think your talking to? You have some nerve, you make comments like a little girl all time about our staff. You can go bump threads and plagiarize other peoples research somewhere else if you have an issues with any more staff. You act like your somebody, what tree did you fall out of and land here? Go ahead, make a thread in the one on one.......this is going to end.

Thank you BG and I am gald other staff and members have voiced their concerns about his attitude and it wasn't just me, ive tried to tolerate him but he continues to provoke me. A lot of people don't realise what's gone on but from the pm's ive recently had many feel the same way anyway without even knowing the full story.


MK, if you want to make a reply do it in the one to one section and not in my thread, I don't want another one going off topic.
Thank you

[marcus300]

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[marcus300]

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[marcus300]

Don't under estimate this tool, amazing pre cycle protocol and a must in any kind of cycling

[Giggle]

Hi Marcus. I know you said that the diet before the prime should be pretty stable and then switch to 6-8 weeks of carb cycling, but that it's to create an anabolic environment - not for fat burning?
I ask because I have dropped about 15# over the last few months, but I feel I'm not lean enough to get all the benefits from a cycle, and was counting on the prime to drop a few more BF%s.

How lean do you think a female should be, to get some growth out of a cycle?
Thanks. This is a great reference!

[marcus300]

Hi Marcus. I know you said that the diet before the prime should be pretty stable and then switch to 6-8 weeks of carb cycling, but that it's to create an anabolic environment - not for fat burning?
I ask because I have dropped about 15# over the last few months, but I feel I'm not lean enough to get all the benefits from a cycle, and was counting on the prime to drop a few more BF%s.

How lean do you think a female should be, to get some growth out of a cycle?
Thanks. This is a great reference!

Hi Giggle, there is no set point to priming where you will springboard yourself into the cycle. If you have primed for 6-8 weeks and its your first prime you should be good to go, if you feel your not ready continue with the prime for another 2 weeks. The most important part is to do it slowly off your maintenance diet, this will create the right environment

[Giggle]

Thank you so much. This is the best information I've been able to find about priming.

[marcus300]

Thank you so much. This is the best information I've been able to find about priming.

Its a remarkable tool to use and you will never cycle without it in the future

[btrizzyb]

This is definitely some great info. Im getting close to finishing up my first cycle (12 weeks test enth) and I will definitely make sure to use this before starting my next cycle. So basically since I already have a pretty steady food intake established, I would just go straight in to 3 days of 40% less carbs, then 1 day of 15% more, and do the 3/1 a few more times, then go 5 days straight of 40% less carbs and then start my Enth cycle and pick back up to my normal food intake?

[marcus300]

This is definitely some great info. Im getting close to finishing up my first cycle (12 weeks test enth) and I will definitely make sure to use this before starting my next cycle. So basically since I already have a pretty steady food intake established, I would just go straight in to 3 days of 40% less carbs, then 1 day of 15% more, and do the 3/1 a few more times, then go 5 days straight of 40% less carbs and then start my Enth cycle and pick back up to my normal food intake?

You need to get through pct and fully recover then get a maintenance diet established for a few wks then work off that. Probably 4-6wks after your pct depends on recovery and the new diet you establish after recovery

[BG]

Bump back up for 2014.

[marcus300]

Beast bump

[Jaydenn]

Interesting post Marcus !

[marcus300]

Interesting post Marcus !

Its a great tool to have when your trying to achieve the big gains

[Score]

Bump-

[tice1212]

Awesome article... Thank u Marcus.. Haydenz this is what priming is. U should look into it for ur next cycle brother..

[Haydenz]

Awesome article... Thank u Marcus.. Haydenz this is what priming is. U should look into it for ur next cycle brother..

I dont think this works while you are already ON AAS,

[tice1212]

I dont think this works while you are already ON AAS,

Do u think Dorian Yates wasn't on gear before doing this method after ever show. (I know I'm not Dorian Yates haha) I guess I'll figure it out and post my results. It makes sense when u really think about how it works.

[Haydenz]

Do u think Dorian Yates wasn't on gear before doing this method after ever show. (I know I'm not Dorian Yates haha) I guess I'll figure it out and post my results. It makes sense when u really think about how it works.

I must of read something wrong, but the way I read it was that, you diet down then load up with gear in the last weeks and explode with calories .

[Buster Brown]

Basically cutting calories before a cycle .....Carb cycling works really well (Its the only way I prime or cut now opposed a standard daily caloric def). You can also Carb cycle on cycle as well either bulking or cutting. After you prime and begin your cycle your body really soaks up the calories and the feeling is amazing.

[marcus300]

I dont think this works while you are already ON AAS,

Do u think Dorian Yates wasn't on gear before doing this method after ever show. (I know I'm not Dorian Yates haha) I guess I'll figure it out and post my results. It makes sense when u really think about how it works.

The kind of prime mentioned in this thread is geared towards people going ON cycle, its a pre cycle prime but there are many ways to prime and use this method. Priming like I've mentioned in this thread is implemented via a carb cycling approach now you can use a completion diet were you slowly reduce your cals but with this method your metabolism changes so thing's need to be addressed slightly different but for someone who is coming out of a competition diet while on steroids you can use this position to spring board into a growth cycle. Its very similar to a pre cycle prime because you have put your body into a very sensitive position. With a pre cycle prime you don't use steroids you do the carb cycling detailed in this thread and then when you go on cycle you reap the benefits a lot better and growth starts straight away. Just like after a competition you can use this time to rebound but due to the metabolism changing you have to attack your diet slightly different due to the metabolism changing.

[Buster Brown]

The kind of prime mentioned in this thread is geared towards people going ON cycle, its a pre cycle prime but there are many ways to prime and use this method. Priming like I've mentioned in this thread is implemented via a carb cycling approach now you can use a completion diet were you slowly reduce your cals but with this method your metabolism changes so thing's need to be addressed slightly different but for someone who is coming out of a competition diet while on steroids you can use this position to spring board into a growth cycle. Its very similar to a pre cycle prime because you have put your body into a very sensitive position. With a pre cycle prime you don't use steroids you do the carb cycling detailed in this thread and then when you go on cycle you reap the benefits a lot better and growth starts straight away. Just like after a competition you can use this time to rebound but due to the metabolism changing you have to attack your diet slightly different due to the metabolism changing.

Thank God you are here.

[tice1212]

The kind of prime mentioned in this thread is geared towards people going ON cycle, its a pre cycle prime but there are many ways to prime and use this method. Priming like I've mentioned in this thread is implemented via a carb cycling approach now you can use a completion diet were you slowly reduce your cals but with this method your metabolism changes so thing's need to be addressed slightly different but for someone who is coming out of a competition diet while on steroids you can use this position to spring board into a growth cycle. Its very similar to a pre cycle prime because you have put your body into a very sensitive position. With a pre cycle prime you don't use steroids you do the carb cycling detailed in this thread and then when you go on cycle you reap the benefits a lot better and growth starts straight away. Just like after a competition you can use this time to rebound but due to the metabolism changing you have to attack your diet slightly different due to the metabolism changing.

Thank u for clearing this up sir.

[Haydenz]

Thank u for clearing this up sir.

Ill probably wait for the cycle after my comp to try this, as I will be dieting back to keep a 10% bf% in the off season, thanks for the link to this tice, its very interesting.

[mrtypr]

Hey Marcus

WOuld appreciate some feedback from you

Going to do a cycle for gaining mass/bulking soon

I want to do a cut before hand so I look leaner when I jump on the cycle and also to hopefully get more gains out of the cycle and food

I will do a hard 6 week cardio/weights and caloric deficient plan like I usually do which involved hitt training and weights. I get very lean and vascular with it

What do you think?