HGH, Insulin, Testoviron

[fizzik]

Hello,
I am going to start a 5-6 Month-Cycle with HGH with 5 IU a Day (One or Two Days Off).
Insulin (Lantus and Novo Rapid) I'm already using (Diabetes Typ-1)
My Question is regarding the Testo how much should be taken a week according to the HGH dosage, I was thinking 250mg-500mg?

[Bonaparte]

Test dose isn't dictated by hgh dose at all. And you probably shouldn't run test the whole 6 months, as the results won't be much better than with a 3 month cycle, but recovery will be a lot tougher.
What is your previous experience with these compounds?

[fizzik]

I've done a 3 Month test enth cycle so far about 1,5 years back, everything worked out well as-well as the post-cycle and the test levels were back to normal after a couple of months (every 6 months I do a blood screening due to diabetes). I gained a approx of 4 kg lean muscle with a dosage of 250mg twice a week.

[fizzik]

I have already got all my stuff ready. But have also changed my plan a bit.
Week 1-4(maybe 6 weeks depending on how effective the dosage is)
- 2 IU HGH Nordi (Pharma-Grade) 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/Week Test Enth Norma
- Insulin Lantus and NovoRapid dosage according to my Blood Sugar levels
Week 4(6)-8
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/week test
- Slin
Week 8-10
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 500mg Test
- Slin

Week 10-20(24)
- HGH 2 IU
- Post-Cycle Test with HCG and Taxo
- Slin

Nutrition: 250 Protein a Day, Low Fat, Low Carb Diet Especially in the last 2-3 Months.

Can this Plan be followed through, for a lean gain of muscle? What could the results likely be for such a cycle?

[kaptainkeezy04]

I have already got all my stuff ready. But have also changed my plan a bit.
Week 1-4(maybe 6 weeks depending on how effective the dosage is)
- 2 IU HGH Nordi (Pharma-Grade) 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/Week Test Enth Norma
- Insulin Lantus and NovoRapid dosage according to my Blood Sugar levels
Week 4(6)-8
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/week test
- Slin
Week 8-10
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 500mg Test
- Slin

Week 10-20(24)
- HGH 2 IU
- Post-Cycle Test with HCG and Taxo
- Slin

Nutrition: 250 Protein a Day, Low Fat, Low Carb Diet Especially in the last 2-3 Months.

Can this Plan be followed through, for a lean gain of muscle? What could the results likely be for such a cycle?

This looks awful. Why would you use test as your only aas at 250mg/week? test at 250/week is just fine when running tren, but by itself? weak! Run 500mg or not at all.

Secondly, you use HCG DURING the cycle. Not after. Why is there no clomid/clomiphene in your PCT?

This lack of knowledge shows me you are nowhere near ready for a cycle, but I know you are going to do it anyways, so I might as well help.

By the way, if this "nordi" you speak of is those unlabeled so-called "nordipens" that have been floating around, then you might as well sell them to some other sucker. They are as fake as a rolex from a street vendor in mexico.

[fizzik]

True HCG i will be taking before the last Test usage, Clomid I still have from the last cycle but I didnt really use it. With the Post-Cycle I dont really have any problems of figuring out how it works as it worked out perfectly last time.
My main Problem is as you say:
"Why would you use test as your only aas at 250mg/week? test at 250/week is just fine when running tren , but by itself? weak! Run 500mg or not at all."
I'm note sure about the dosage of the Test and which Test is the best to use, as I have never used it before in combination with HGH. What I have mainly read is that 250mg-500mg/Week is enough on low dosage of HGH (3-4 IU). What are your suggestions on the Test dosage and what is the best Test to be using and how long should the Test-Cycle be with HGH?

[fizzik]

By the way, if this "nordi" you speak of is those unlabeled so-called "nordipens" that have been floating around, then you might as well sell them to some other sucker. They are as fake as a rolex from a street vendor in mexico.

I'm getting my HGH Nord from Europe and not the US-Market. From a legit seller with top Reviews. So this shouldnt be a problem.

[kaptainkeezy04]

you need to have a clear and concise plan regarding your insulin use. such as "only after workouts" or "every morning on nonlifting days, and after workouts on lifting days."

you can't just take one dose of clomid. Where are you getting this information?

Once again, if you're taking a long ester testosterone like enanthate or cypionate, PCT won't do any good until 14 days after last injection.

I don't know what you mean when you say "HCG 500 IE/day." What is an "IE"? I recommend just taking HCG 250 IU twice a week throughout the cycle, that way your testicles don't have to play catch up.

[fizzik]

you need to have a clear and concise plan regarding your insulin use. such as "only after workouts" or "every morning on nonlifting days, and after workouts on lifting days."

I don't know what you mean when you say "HCG 500 IE/day." What is an "IE"? I recommend just taking HCG 250 IU twice a week throughout the cycle, that way your testicles don't have to play catch up.

I have to take Insulin as I am Type 1 Diabetic and is just an adavantage throughout the cycle.
And yes I meant "IU" for HCG

[kaptainkeezy04]

Go to sleep. I'll be in touch tomorrow. In the meantime, hurry up and get your post count up, so we can message.

[kaptainkeezy04]

sorry, I forgot you said you were already diabetic. My mistake. Be careful with HGH, then. What is your username on that other site?

[fizzik]

The same name as here "fizzik"

[fizzik]

I've also thought about stacking Test Ent at the end of the HGH cycle so that I use my current Test Levels and give the body some time to get used to HGH. Then in the last 16 Weeks I would do the 12 Week Test Cycle and in the last 4 weeks I do the PCT with HGH. Does the make more sense then doing the test cycle to the bgein of the hgh cycle?

[kaptainkeezy04]

I've also thought about stacking Test Ent at the end of the HGH cycle so that I use my current Test Levels and give the body some time to get used to HGH. Then in the last 16 Weeks I would do the 12 Week Test Cycle and in the last 4 weeks I do the PCT with HGH. Does the make more sense then doing the test cycle to the bgein of the hgh cycle?

you are way overcomplicating things.

week 1-10
250 mg of test cyp or enan every 3.5 days
20-40mg of tamox every day
250 IU of hcg every 3.5 days

week 11-12
20-40mg of tamox every day
250 IU of hcg every 3.5 days

week 13-14
100mg of clomiphene per day
40mg of tamox per day

week 15-16
50mg of clomiphene per day
20-40mg of tamox per day

Use hgh and insulin as you wish, as long as you are educated.

[fizzik]

Whats the point of taking Tamox/Nolva during the cycle this just stops the IGF-1 Production...?


Isn't it better to take Tamox only as a PCT and during the cycle Arimidex?

[kaptainkeezy04]

I'm very gyno prone, so I take 1mg of arimidex every day during cycle and pct.