HGH, Insulin, Testoviron

[fizzik]

I have already got all my stuff ready. But have also changed my plan a bit.
Week 1-4(maybe 6 weeks depending on how effective the dosage is)
- 2 IU HGH Nordi (Pharma-Grade) 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/Week Test Enth Norma
- Insulin Lantus and NovoRapid dosage according to my Blood Sugar levels
Week 4(6)-8
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/week test
- Slin
Week 8-10
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 500mg Test
- Slin

Week 10-20(24)
- HGH 2 IU
- Post-Cycle Test with HCG and Taxo
- Slin

Nutrition: 250 Protein a Day, Low Fat, Low Carb Diet Especially in the last 2-3 Months.

Can this Plan be followed through, for a lean gain of muscle? What could the results likely be for such a cycle?

[kaptainkeezy04]

I have already got all my stuff ready. But have also changed my plan a bit.
Week 1-4(maybe 6 weeks depending on how effective the dosage is)
- 2 IU HGH Nordi (Pharma-Grade) 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/Week Test Enth Norma
- Insulin Lantus and NovoRapid dosage according to my Blood Sugar levels
Week 4(6)-8
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 250mg/week test
- Slin
Week 8-10
- 3-4 IU HGH 5 on 2 off
- 500mg Test
- Slin

Week 10-20(24)
- HGH 2 IU
- Post-Cycle Test with HCG and Taxo
- Slin

Nutrition: 250 Protein a Day, Low Fat, Low Carb Diet Especially in the last 2-3 Months.

Can this Plan be followed through, for a lean gain of muscle? What could the results likely be for such a cycle?

This looks awful. Why would you use test as your only aas at 250mg/week? test at 250/week is just fine when running tren, but by itself? weak! Run 500mg or not at all.

Secondly, you use HCG DURING the cycle. Not after. Why is there no clomid/clomiphene in your PCT?

This lack of knowledge shows me you are nowhere near ready for a cycle, but I know you are going to do it anyways, so I might as well help.

By the way, if this "nordi" you speak of is those unlabeled so-called "nordipens" that have been floating around, then you might as well sell them to some other sucker. They are as fake as a rolex from a street vendor in mexico.

[fizzik]

True HCG i will be taking before the last Test usage, Clomid I still have from the last cycle but I didnt really use it. With the Post-Cycle I dont really have any problems of figuring out how it works as it worked out perfectly last time.
My main Problem is as you say:
"Why would you use test as your only aas at 250mg/week? test at 250/week is just fine when running tren , but by itself? weak! Run 500mg or not at all."
I'm note sure about the dosage of the Test and which Test is the best to use, as I have never used it before in combination with HGH. What I have mainly read is that 250mg-500mg/Week is enough on low dosage of HGH (3-4 IU). What are your suggestions on the Test dosage and what is the best Test to be using and how long should the Test-Cycle be with HGH?

[fizzik]

By the way, if this "nordi" you speak of is those unlabeled so-called "nordipens" that have been floating around, then you might as well sell them to some other sucker. They are as fake as a rolex from a street vendor in mexico.

I'm getting my HGH Nord from Europe and not the US-Market. From a legit seller with top Reviews. So this shouldnt be a problem.

[kaptainkeezy04]

I'm getting my HGH Nord from Europe and not the US-Market. From a legit seller with top Reviews. So this shouldnt be a problem.

I have a feeling I know the source you are talking about. The so-called "nordipens" that don't have any labels, or original packaging, and the seller says that they remove all of that so that the package can make it through customs. DO NOT BELIEVE THEM. Stuff with labels make it through customs all the time! Those pens are filled with HCG and peptides.

Secondly, it doesn't matter what test you use. Test it test. As long as you are doing 500mg a week, then you are fine. use Test enan or test cyp if you don't want to do injections that often. Your PCT was perfect last time? If it was perfect, why do you have HCG in your PCT in your original post? Why is there no clomid in your PCT?

[fizzik]

As for the PCT: In the Last two weeks of the cycle 500 I.E HCG,
2-3 Days after the last test usage: 250mg clomid, 50mg taxo
Following 3 weeks: Taxo 40mg/Day
But the PCT isnt really my concern.
Coming to the Test I will be doing 500mg after all on 10-12 week cycle.
But I also read in most books and forums that HGH should only be used with Test to get proper results. And slin should be stacked too as to lower the higher blood sugars, which I believe to be a cause for the fat loss but that is a diffrent topic.
So isnt then logic to take Test the whole HGH cycle or would this just desensify the testicals in the long run after the cycle?
As to that a HGH Cycle should go 3-6 Months at the least. This is why I thought just to use a lower dosage of Test and use test for 4 Months of 5 Month cycle.

[kaptainkeezy04]

As for the PCT: In the Last two weeks of the cycle 500 I.E HCG,
2-3 Days after the last test usage: 250mg clomid, 50mg taxo
Following 3 weeks: Taxo 40mg/Day
But the PCT isnt really my concern.
Coming to the Test I will be doing 500mg after all on 10-12 week cycle.
But I also read in most books and forums that HGH should only be used with Test to get proper results. And slin should be stacked too as to lower the higher blood sugars, which I believe to be a cause for the fat loss but that is a diffrent topic.
So isnt then logic to take Test the whole HGH cycle or would this just desensify the testicals in the long run after the cycle?
As to that a HGH Cycle should go 3-6 Months at the least. This is why I thought just to use a lower dosage of Test and use test for 4 Months of 5 Month cycle.

I used HGH so many times without test, and it was awesome! Granted I was using the real thing, so these people who say "I never notice any difference without test," are probably buying chinese hgh and therefor not HGH, and thus only seeing the benefits of testosterone. My last cycle, I did 4 IU a day of hgh 5 days a week, and then 6 IU a day during my PCT. Why did I up the dosage? Because I didn't want my body to crash too hard from the lack of test, and the HGH helped with that big time.

[fizzik]

Then I'll list out my Cycle again:

HGH Cycle Stacked with Test and Slin
Week: 1-12
- HGH 3 IU / 5on 2off(which is a variable depending on side-effects)
- Test Enth 2x250mg/Week
- Insulin according to the blood sugar level
- HCG 250/mg through the cycle / 2xWeek

PCT for Test Enth:

2-3 Days after Week 14:
- Clomid 250mg
- Taxo 50mg

Week 14-17:
- Taxo 40mg/Day
(edit) - Clomid 100mg for 7 Days(Week 14), Followed by 50mg the next 14 Days (Week 15-17)
- (as you mentioned in your post I may increase the HGH dosage by 1 IU " I didn't want my body to crash too hard from the lack of test")

HGH and Insulin
Week: 12-16
- HGH 4 IU
- Slin according to Blood Sugar
The Cycle will probaly go on to Week 20 in the same measure dpending an results and well-being.
Supplements like Orthomol Sport will be taken throughout the cycle.

[kaptainkeezy04]

As for the PCT: In the Last two weeks of the cycle 500 I.E HCG,
2-3 Days after the last test usage: 250mg clomid, 50mg taxo
Following 3 weeks: Taxo 40mg/Day
But the PCT isnt really my concern.
Coming to the Test I will be doing 500mg after all on 10-12 week cycle.
But I also read in most books and forums that HGH should only be used with Test to get proper results. And slin should be stacked too as to lower the higher blood sugars, which I believe to be a cause for the fat loss but that is a diffrent topic.
So isnt then logic to take Test the whole HGH cycle or would this just desensify the testicals in the long run after the cycle?
As to that a HGH Cycle should go 3-6 Months at the least. This is why I thought just to use a lower dosage of Test and use test for 4 Months of 5 Month cycle.

I just noticed another huge mistake. If you're using test enanhate or cypionate, you shouldn't start PCT until 14 days from last injection. How have you already cycled and you don't know this?

[fizzik]

I have a feeling I know the source you are talking about. The so-called "nordipens" that don't have any labels, or original packaging, and the seller says that they remove all of that so that the package can make it through customs. DO NOT BELIEVE THEM. Stuff with labels make it through customs all the time! Those pens are filled with HCG and peptides.

HCG isn't used anymore to fake HGH products. This was mostly done in the 90's as HGH was more expensive. I think it is also quite hard to fake a nordilet pen (not saying it isnt't possible) As this pens cannot be recycled and no one would take out the fluid and insert hcg into the pens as hcg is relative easy to detect. Furthermore other Peptides would also have diffrent side-effects and in high dosages dangerous to use and the source would be bombed with bad reviews. Also if over 50 People have used this source for HGH and everyone says it is Legit and working well for them what should be bad about this product with no negative reviews?

[kaptainkeezy04]

HCG isn't used anymore to fake HGH products. This was mostly done in the 90's as HGH was more expensive. I think it is also quite hard to fake a nordilet pen (not saying it isnt't possible) As this pens cannot be recycled and no one would take out the fluid and insert hcg into the pens as hcg is relative easy to detect. Furthermore other Peptides would also have diffrent side-effects and in high dosages dangerous to use and the source would be bombed with bad reviews. Also if over 50 People have used this source for HGH and everyone says it is Legit and working well for them what should be bad about this product with no negative reviews?

These are people who have never used real HGH before. Anyways, do what you want. I've tried UGL hgh and I've tried the real thing. It's a night and day difference. Secondly, you still haven't laid out your cycle and in clear manner. Please type it out line by line for each product. Don't just type it out in incomplete sentences. You're new here, so I'll tell you now, people won't want to help you if you type it out like that. As far as the whole "you have to take test to get the full hgh benefits" thing, that is completely false. for the most part, HGH just leans you out, but it also builds brand new muscle. That's right. Muscle you can NEVER lose. Test just makes your muscles temporarily bigger. Now, when you combine these two, you will get a lot bigger and lose body fat, and so the muscle gain with the body fat loss makes you look way more lean than before, and so people think there is some type of synergistic effect, and there is no science to say that there is any synergy or symbiosis or whatever.