Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBricks View Post
The studies are not wrong. They are correct. *YOU* are wrong because you cannot, apparently, read a study, evaluate its content and apply it to a related but different question. The would be no shame in this as it is a skill that is cultivated over many years. That you demand to be taken seriously simultaneously is the shame. You fail to grasp one of the most fundamental concepts in biochemistry. Effects do *not* scale linearly with dosage. Calcium too low? You die. Calcium to high? You die. We are not talking about cyanide or arsenic here. We are not talking about Sarin or scorpion venom. You argue as if you understood basic electrolyte biochemistry and clinical reality as one would understand poisoning. They are not remotely the same. Electrolyte homeostasis is simply more nuanced than that and in this arena I think my college degree in biochemisty and medical education *does* give the grounds to tell you "No, you are making a mistake in your interpretation".

Do you need Sanjay Gupta to tell you you are wrong before you will back off this nonsense? Should I send you over to a medical forum and have two dozen people with over a decade of medical education tell you exactly what I am telling you now? I admit, I am not great about giving people a face saving way out of an argument with me. Sorry. But you are wrong all the same and you are going to have to eat your vegetables and just take your licks here.
*sigh* again i ask :

1- Do you , as a doctor, really think its smart to defend this ingredient ....with risk factors ...in a demographic likely to be using one or more substances known to increase these risks?

2- Why does the fda warn low dose long term use may result in possible renal failure due to phosphate crystal build up - and why did they require 2 OTC preparations to adjust formulas and place warnings on their products?

3 - Do you honestly think its prudent to take this daily in a supplement?

4- If you felt i merely misinterpreted the studies - maybe you could have just said that - instead of starting in hurling insults etc .... That may have been more mature - and productive - i gave you the opportunity - openly ignoring your first insult and inviting your input. You simply replied with another insult ... surprising ?? - not considering the source - no.

5- As far as my chemistry knowledge - well im not sure you would want to compare ....physiology yes i would hope you know more - chemistry - well lets just say you and i both better hope not next time u write out a script....

6- I dont need to save face at all - i expressed my opinion - i stick by it.

7-My mind hasn't changed - i wont take this supp - for several reasons - this is just one more reason to add to the list...

Respond if you wish - i am done with my interaction with you in this thread. Hopefully , if you amend your ways as pointed out , we can have productive, informative exchanges in the future. I will no longer lower myself to trading insults with the likes of you. I enjoy this board far too much.