You failed toaddress these points:
i reiterate:
this supp has this ingredient ...in an amount unknown to you ...but you assume its safe ...b/c of the # of caps. But it is associated with the aforementioned disorders....the demographic here is very likely to be taking other risk increasing compounds .Do you , as a doctor, really think its smart to defend this ingredient ....with unknown risk factors ...in a demographic likely to be using one or more substances known to increase these risks?
See for me its easy - its associated with the disorder ....its in a supp u take daily ...why take it? at any dose.
Where you go wrong is you try to argue opinions - ...you see i read info on an ingredient - i assessed it - i formed and stated an opinion - based on facts i read. Re read this thread. You then sarcastically question my knowledge of chemistry - which i ignore and ask for your input. You then proceed to explain why i deserve to be talked down to ..blah blah blah. I have my opinion - in my mind it is justified. Answer my above questions honestly and on some level we agree i believe - i cant imagine you saying yeah ill take it with an nsaid and /or'> tren. Or yeah its a good thing to take a supp with this ingredient and other potential associated risk factors(unknown to you). Or you know what maybe you think its fine ...and thats ok - but taking the thread to personal attacks etc ...you went there - its stupid - and YOUR peers (acutually not your peers - specialists - urologists , etc...) wrote the articles i read....the FDA - who we both know well - warned not only against high dosage but low dose long term use - "potential build up of phosphate crystals leading to possible renal failure. "
Why did you fail to address the above?
You claim its a salt and a phospahte blah blah blah - the body removes it all the time. OK so take 2 teaspoons of table salt in h20 daily in addition to your normal diet.....intelligent - no ...healthy -no.
I guess you know the kidney so well ALL the experts that wrote the articles and studies i cited are wrong. The FDA investigated / regulated OTC products containing this very ingredient for the dangers i mentioned..... and they must be wrong too.
Given all the above info - the studies - the fda findings -the risk with low dose long term usage (documented by the fda btw) you STILL want to argue this point. You must be right - they are all wrong...and then to boot you call me an idiot.
People can read and decide for themselves.
I wont take the supplement. Thats my opinion - you havent changed it.
Oh but wait that wasnt your goal anyway was it - you entered the thread spewing insults at me from the start.
Its easier to do that than to read the links i posted - acknowledge the truth in the bold statements above - and actually admit you dont know everything.
It's easier stating everyone else including urologists , specialists and the FDA are wrong ...and you ....a resident (no disrespect - just pointing itout for comparison purposes) are correct.
I find that hard to believe - even for you.




							
						
				
				
				
					
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