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    first cycle - sust250

    My Stats-

    Age: 24
    Height: 5'10.5"
    Weight: 178.2 lbs
    BF%: Unsure but can post pics for referencing? I would guess around 15%
    Cycle Exp: 8 weeks Anavar only w/ 2 weeks clomid pct
    PCT Knowledge: learning more as i go, but i have read alot so far, serm's type I+II, sarm etc...
    Training Exp: Approx. 8 years
    Diet: is in progress, i will be looking for advice on diet as well once i figure out my cycle and figure out my current macros.

    I am planning/hoping to start my first cycle Sept 5th assuming i get all my facts + chemicals straight by then.

    My Goals:
    If I can keep the vascularity train rolling that would be awesome. Veins are definitely my friend lol I'm not looking to be a mass monster, for a couple reasons. As funny as this may sound coming from a guy looking to use anabolic steroids, I don't want to put on too much mass - for health reasons. Mostly just because I have genetic high cholesterol and dont want to increase my risks of heart disease by being 30 or 40lbs "obese".
    I would like to put on some new mass, increase my strength in all of my lifts, and in the end have a "hard" physique.. and as I said, if I can be vascular while doing it, even better!

    Cycle in question:

    Week 1-12 : 400mg/week Sustanon 250 - (inj. freq in question)
    Week 7-14 : 40mg's ED Anavar
    Week 1-17 : .5mg Liquidex every 3rd day (open to opinion on this as well)
    Week 15-18 : Nolvadex 20mg/day
    Week 15-17 : Clomid
    -Clomid day 1: 300mg, day 2-11: 100mg day 12-21: 50mg

    The basis of my questions fall into a couple different parts.

    1- I know that generally speaking first cycle is recommended to be cyp or enth alone, which i understand, but as some say "test is test" and I can get sust more readily than c or e... Ive heard that sust isnt as much of a bulking compound while compared to longer estered test, any truth to that? Possibly with regards to water retention, to a lesser degree than prop?

    2- Any thoughts on my plan for pct? I found that clomid protocol on another site and it sounds legit to me, but i wondered if that was common practice or if it sounds excessive/acceptable?

    I have a feeling I will be prone to gyno, which is why I think the liquidex would be appropriate during cycle. Also, I wondered about swapping the Clomid for 20mg/ED Aromasin?

    Any thoughts, questions, and/or input is greatly appreciated!
    Last edited by muscle_bill; 07-08-2010 at 03:46 PM.

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