I recently ran into an issue where I purchased 4 vials of pretty expensive DHB from a source I use consistently, and whose DHB I have used recently before. What prompted me to buy those 4 vials was the quality of the first two vials I used, and how they made me feel. Little pip, good results.


The lab has since changed carrier oils to guaiacol, and the pip is unbearable, even at a low .5 mL dose, mixed with other gear. I couldn’t move my arm for a week and had a lump in my shoulder for longer.

Isn’t it kind of a bait and switch the fact that the first batch was one kind of gear, and the second batch a totally different experience? I contacted the lab and there is no explanation for why the carrier oil was changed, only “that sucks brother” and “DHB is a bitch.” Their suggestion was to dilute the oil with some other oil, which I kind of already did by using it with test c.


I don’t see myself doing anything but throwing these vials in the trash and losing the ~$280 I paid for them. I would think a lab that wants to keep clients would offer something else in return, even if only covering half the cost. What’s it cost them to make a vial, a few bucks?