Should labs refund/give you credit?

[Test Monsterone]

"Personally attached" yeah, he has integrity.

I see myself with val.
Puts his ass on the line only to have people complain about shit beyond his control.

Just like someone complaining about my prices for my career. I dont put my ass on the line performing the most dangerous aspect of the most dangerous industry in the US and spend thousands on overhead to make a poverty level wage. I sure live like I am impoverished though. I aint making millions. Rather than have someone complain about me,I would rather not have their business no matter how big the contract is, because at the end of the day, all I have is a reputation and my name.
I will bust my ass like no one you ever saw to please all my patrons. I will put myself in harms way because thats my job and I struggle with bills just like anyone.

I can't say what I want to say to my patrons if they complain. I gotta smile and grit my teeth or I get a bad review in a world where I am judged by one bad review more than 1000 good ones.

I get what you’re saying, but I never named anyone and, like I said, in private conversations I have said only good things. Personally, if I was running a lab and had a client who seemed consistent and paid on time, I’d say something like “hey, I can see you’re not doing so well with this new batch. Next time You order I’ll help you out and take off 10%.” Maybe you don’t agree, and that’s fine, that’s just how I would handle it.

Look I’ve been involved in a medical spa business where sometimes clients weren’t happy with the results. I’ve had them threaten to sue, to leave bad reviews, etc. I know that’s a bad situation and I don’t do it to others, especially not someone I’m getting my gear off of. I’d be a moron to try to make someone that helps me out look bad.

We did give clients discounts and sometimes even free treatments, especially to those who were return customers. If someone came in for a laser hair treatment and got great results the first two times, then they came back and were burned the third time, and I told them “sorry we used different lenses on the laser, it doesn’t happen to everyone,” would that work? No, people expect consistent results using the same methods.

Anyway, like I said, I didn’t come here to put anyone on blast if that’s what it looks like. This is my little steroid chat room away from my real life where I thought I could discuss and share whatever current things are going on with me related to steroids and bodybuilding. No names no drama. There are already 5 million questions on the same old PCT, cycle help, dosages, sarms, etc. I like to explore different topics, because just taking about gear is boring.

[The road]

I get what you’re saying, but I never named anyone and, like I said, in private conversations I have said only good things. Personally, if I was running a lab and had a client who seemed consistent and paid on time, I’d say something like “hey, I can see you’re not doing so well with this new batch. Next time You order I’ll help you out and take off 10%.” Maybe you don’t agree, and that’s fine, that’s just how I would handle it.

Look I’ve been involved in a medical spa business where sometimes clients weren’t happy with the results. I’ve had them threaten to sue, to leave bad reviews, etc. I know that’s a bad situation and I don’t do it to others, especially not someone I’m getting my gear off of. I’d be a moron to try to make someone that helps me out look bad.

We did give clients discounts and sometimes even free treatments, especially to those who were return customers. If someone came in for a laser hair treatment and got great results the first two times, then they came back and were burned the third time, and I told them “sorry we used different lenses on the laser, it doesn’t happen to everyone,” would that work? No, people expect consistent results using the same methods.

Anyway, like I said, I didn’t come here to put anyone on blast if that’s what it looks like. This is my little steroid chat room away from my real life where I thought I could discuss and share whatever current things are going on with me related to steroids and bodybuilding. No names no drama. There are already 5 million questions on the same old PCT, cycle help, dosages, sarms, etc. I like to explore different topics, because just taking about gear is boring.

Ok.
I do think you should start your own lab.

Personally I have never had a dissatisfied customer. I could have had many. Doesn't mean I like to cater to someone who dreamed up the idea that I should perform tasks not in my contract.

If you were given a refund for pip to keep you happy and he and he advertised in the open to anyone with a dollar, he would have to refund half his orders for some ignorant reason like gear shipped in 0° weather that crashed or a newbie who got pip.

Think about the guys that have been here 10 plus years doing this. Do you see any of them post threads about pip? Do you think they dont get pip?
They do.
They understand its part of the game. Not a thing can be done to stop it.

This is a reverse order ugl. They vet their customers to try and weed out whiners to protect their reputation.

They aint making big bucks. If val wanted money over reputation they would post an ad on a retarded ass source board and rake it in.
Then they would be another blow up here today gone tomorrow lab serving any swinging dick with a dollar and have "mixed reviews".

If complaints got too high they could just close up shop and post a new ad with a new ugl name and run another ad on the same shitty source board.
Rinse lather and repeat.

Btw... Shop around. Most domestic ugls ^^^^ do exactly that.

Just ask victory/thor/hammer/ and I forgot the latest name they use.