Should labs refund/give you credit?

[The road]

I am not at all sorry I came off like a dick and these ignorant newbie post about PIP calling guiacol a carrier oil, bitching at a lab, are a disgrace.

This is hands down one of the dumbest I have seen and Idgaf who wrote it I will call them out. Excuse me if Im not friendly about it. Its annoying.
Then the idiot trys to play it off like the lab was rude.....
They were polite and professional to a stupid ass kid mentality pitching a fit.

Do you think fucking ugls notify people when they change anything?
Fuck no.

My advice is to take your ass to a different lab.
Gtfo
Go find someone better
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
You tried to make this lab sound like a 9 oclock news story so ypu dont need to do business with them any more.

[SampsonandDelilah]

I am not at all sorry I came off like a dick and these ignorant newbie post about PIP calling guiacol a carrier oil, bitching at a lab, are a disgrace.

This is hands down one of the dumbest I have seen and Idgaf who wrote it I will call them out. Excuse me if Im not friendly about it. Its annoying.
Then the idiot trys to play it off like the lab was rude.....
They were polite and professional to a stupid ass kid mentality pitching a fit.

Do you think fucking ugls notify people when they change anything?
Fuck no.

My advice is to take your ass to a different lab.
Gtfo
Go find someone better
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
You tried to make this lab sound like a 9 oclock news story so ypu dont need to do business with them any more.

No disrespect, but I have a different take. Didn’t seem that alarmist to me and it was posed in a question and not a statement. The guy was asking for insights, maybe I need to go back a reread but he didn’t call out the lab in a bad way. Look, we’ve all had awesome interactions with these guys and in no way would I never not defend this lab. I just didn’t see it as offensive as you did. We’re a bunch of hormonal alpha males, let’s show each other some grace.

This particular source has been nothing but amazing to me, let’s get that’s straight and no, they are not inclined to tell us when they make a recipe change. I believe they’re doing their best. That being said, TMO was just looking for some clarification

[The road]

No disrespect, but I have a different take. Didn’t seem that alarmist to me and it was posed in a question and not a statement. The guy was asking for insights, maybe I need to go back a reread but he didn’t call out the lab in a bad way. Look, we’ve all had awesome interactions with these guys and in no way would I never not defend this lab. I just didn’t see it as offensive as you did. We’re a bunch of hormonal alpha males, let’s show each other some grace.

This particular source has been nothing but amazing to me, let’s get that’s straight and no, they are not inclined to tell us when they make a recipe change. I believe they’re doing their best. That being said, TMO was just looking for some clarification

I dont mean any of this at you.
Its the newbs they dont want for this reason though.
Some of the most painful gear I ever shot was the best. I had to poke myself in a dozen spots not injecting any more than .2 ml in one spot because it would lock up that muscle group if I did.

People have a sense of entitlement that goes beyond anything I can comprehend. I have never hinted at a ugl for refund or expected one for any reason.

I ordered bunk test cyp from AEL once. I didn't message them and say shit.
It was a few months and the bloods started coming in low for others I had warned and they were taken down. They had blown up huge and now they dont exist. (Likely changed their name)

This post is trying to justify a refund for a reason that anyone can use to get a refund.

"Oh it only cos you a few dollars to make it."

I did a job yeserday that was incredibly dangerous. I charged 200 an hour.
My expense in equipment was maybe 20 bucks including redbull,ephed, and cigarettes.

When I got done the guy said, "You've got a lot more balls than I do!"

Why does gear cost what it costs? Liability, hazard, nuts and guts.

If someone doesnt like a mix and is pissed that a lab can't suit their delicate sensibilities... Wellthey can buy their own raws, make their own mix, and put their own ass on the line.

When someone says I am expensive, I get my equipment and set it on the ground. I tell them they can use my equipment and do it themselves if I can sit down and watch them.

The lab and the patron do not have that luxury in this case bit this is exactly how I see this.

[Test Monsterone]

I am not at all sorry I came off like a dick and these ignorant newbie post about PIP calling guiacol a carrier oil, bitching at a lab, are a disgrace.

This is hands down one of the dumbest I have seen and Idgaf who wrote it I will call them out. Excuse me if Im not friendly about it. Its annoying.
Then the idiot trys to play it off like the lab was rude.....
They were polite and professional to a stupid ass kid mentality pitching a fit.

Do you think fucking ugls notify people when they change anything?
Fuck no.

My advice is to take your ass to a different lab.
Gtfo
Go find someone better
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
You tried to make this lab sound like a 9 oclock news story so ypu dont need to do business with them any more.

Sounds like you are personally involved with the lab and got your feelings hurt. Sorry I posted a reasonable question on an open forum for adults to discuss. You say that I am trying to disparage the lab, when I have actually done business with said lab and had nothing but good experiences. I didn't say they were rude to me. I didn't say I'm never doing business with them again. I didn't name anyone, or any lab. I have only said good things about this lab in private (because I wouldn't call anyone out), and said good things about their gear in the past. Maybe I am a newb and I don't know wtf I'm talking about, but I'm here to learn and to share opinions, like anyone else.

I have run Sustanon, all the Tests, EQ, Deca, and DHB... the first batch of DHB I handled fine, the second not so much. TBH, if you are involved with this lab, you shouldn't have said anything and everything would have been fine - I would have continued ordering from this lab and just avoided DHB in the future. I have communicated this with the lab. I already was taking advice on how to minimize the pip in the future and trying to learn from others. You came in here all foaming at the mouth acting like Vladimir Putin when someone calls him short. Sorry dude, it's an open forum. If you represent this lab and are speaking on it's behalf, then I think you did more damage to its reputation than me asking a question, anonymously. If you only sell to vets, then those vets obviously wouldn't be swayed either way. If I was going to order from a lab and heard them bashing a client like that, I'd be concerned. So good luck to you, whoever you are, I hope you've learned something from this interaction as much as I have from other helpful members.

[The road]

Sounds like you are personally involved with the lab and got your feelings hurt. Sorry I posted a reasonable question on an open forum for adults to discuss. You say that I am trying to disparage the lab, when I have actually done business with said lab and had nothing but good experiences. I didn't say they were rude to me. I didn't say I'm never doing business with them again. I didn't name anyone, or any lab. I have only said good things about this lab in private (because I wouldn't call anyone out), and said good things about their gear in the past. Maybe I am a newb and I don't know wtf I'm talking about, but I'm here to learn and to share opinions, like anyone else.

I have run Sustanon, all the Tests, EQ, Deca, and DHB... the first batch of DHB I handled fine, the second not so much. TBH, if you are involved with this lab, you shouldn't have said anything and everything would have been fine - I would have continued ordering from this lab and just avoided DHB in the future. I have communicated this with the lab. I already was taking advice on how to minimize the pip in the future and trying to learn from others. You came in here all foaming at the mouth acting like Vladimir Putin when someone calls him short. Sorry dude, it's an open forum. If you represent this lab and are speaking on it's behalf, then I think you did more damage to its reputation than me asking a question, anonymously. If you only sell to vets, then those vets obviously wouldn't be swayed either way. If I was going to order from a lab and heard them bashing a client like that, I'd be concerned. So good luck to you, whoever you are, I hope you've learned something from this interaction as much as I have from other helpful members.

Val knew you were hinting at a refund.
Its annoying as fuck.

"Isn’t it kind of a bait and switch the fact that the first batch was one kind of gear, and the second batch a totally different experience? I contacted the lab and there is no explanation for why the carrier oil was changed, only “that sucks brother” and “DHB is a bitch.”"
Yeah you tried to make them sound like dickbags and got it handed right back.

I am making an example of you so val doesn't have to deal with this kind of shit.
If you can't handle pip stay away. Do not use him.
Do not use compounds from any ugl. Pharma gives the same pip to some people though. So it looks like yer shit outta luck.

I knew about this because i got a message from a guy that never complains about his customers. He was mad. I asked him what was wrong. He said, "A newb is bitching about pip."

No hes not perfect. He didnt handle it at all like I would.

I would have said I can't refund you but will mail you a free vial of midol and some tampax.