" Germany moves to ban Scientology"

[Prada]

What bs, people should be able to belive and follow any religion no matter how ****ed up it happens to be. Aslong as it isnt hurting anyone.

Stop trying to defend your religion Kärnfysikern.

Correct people should be able to believe in whatever it is they want to believe as long as it doesnt harm others. However let me ask you a question, should people in Germany be allowed to celebrate the holocaust and deny it? I know its not a religion but I assume you know the laws in Germany in regards to the holocaust. Also you state "Aslong as it isnt hurting anyone." What if I told you, for example and just an example, that scientology was bilking people out of money for their own ulterior motives based on fabricated and fictitious gibberish. Thus these same people having less money and being brainwashed and perhaps not hurting the lives of others but harming their own well being and that of their surroundings. Where is it that you draw the line? Do we let citizens get blackmailed? Or is some intervention needed because the world is filled with idiocy?

Finally.....Kärnfysikern, you are aware what these scientologists preach and the history of their religion?

[thegodfather]

Stop trying to defend your religion Kärnfysikern.

Correct people should be able to believe in whatever it is they want to believe as long as it doesnt harm others. However let me ask you a question, should people in Germany be allowed to celebrate the holocaust and deny it? I know its not a religion but I assume you know the laws in Germany in regards to the holocaust. Also you state "Aslong as it isnt hurting anyone." What if I told you, for example and just an example, that scientology was bilking people out of money for their own ulterior motives based on fabricated and fictitious gibberish. Thus these same people having less money and being brainwashed and perhaps not hurting the lives of others but harming their own well being and that of their surroundings. Where is it that you draw the line? Do we let citizens get blackmailed? Or is some intervention needed because the world is filled with idiocy?

Finally.....Kärnfysikern, you are aware what these scientologists preach and the history of their religion?

Please see in bold.... Fabricated and Fictious gibberish? Says who, says you, because you cant prove their ideals. Well, neither can you prove that anything said in the Bible is true. So based on your premise, the Catholic Church has been swindling people out of their money for over a thousand years, lets ban them next.

Additionally. Although the Holocaust was a really tragic and awful event, it should not be ILLEGAL to be of the BELIEF that it never happened. People can believe the the Tooth Fairy exists or doesn't exist, but we dont pass legislation against it because its not "dramatic" enough. Passing legislation to regulate beliefs is going down a very slippery slope, and it fundamentally takes away peoples unalienable rights that they are BORN with.

[***xxx***]

finally! I am already celebrating Scientology

[thegodfather]

finally! I am already celebrating Scientology

Slippery slope....First Scientology, and then some other ideals that are unpopular and someone thinks should be outlawed. Outlawing ideas is DANGEROUS, and it is the first step of many towards total tyranny. If you dont like what they represent, its simple, DONT LISTEN!

[Kärnfysikern]

Slippery slope....First Scientology, and then some other ideals that are unpopular and someone thinks should be outlawed. Outlawing ideas is DANGEROUS, and it is the first step of many towards total tyranny. If you dont like what they represent, its simple, DONT LISTEN!

[***xxx***]

total tyranny? germany is as liberal, as it gets. prolly only sweden and is more liberal. time to get some things going. scientology is a crappy pscho club, that steals money out of labile ppl pockets. and yes, it s worse than the catholic church (pls no comments about the mid evil times )

[Kärnfysikern]

total tyranny? germany is as liberal, as it gets. prolly only sweden and is more liberal. time to get some things going. scientology is a crappy pscho club, that steals money out of labile ppl pockets. and yes, it s worse than the catholic church (pls no comments about the mid evil times )

But how is it any different from fortune tellers, tarot card readers, homeopathy,psychics ect that obviously fool stupid people out of their money. Should the law protect people from their own stupidity? And who determines what is stupid or not?

Id say when it comes to protecting freedom of speech europe isnt all that liberal.

[Prada]

Please see in bold.... Fabricated and Fictious gibberish? Says who, says you, because you cant prove their ideals. Well, neither can you prove that anything said in the Bible is true. So based on your premise, the Catholic Church has been swindling people out of their money for over a thousand years, lets ban them next.

Additionally. Although the Holocaust was a really tragic and awful event, it should not be ILLEGAL to be of the BELIEF that it never happened. People can believe the the Tooth Fairy exists or doesn't exist, but we dont pass legislation against it because its not "dramatic" enough. Passing legislation to regulate beliefs is going down a very slippery slope, and it fundamentally takes away peoples unalienable rights that they are BORN with.

Just remember, I did say "an example and just an example". One might not be able to prove ideals but they cant prove them either. Yes, I totally agree and understand your point as far as the comment on the catholic church. However I shall abstain from making a comment on religion in general.

Yes, it is a dangerous road, yet in Germany it seems that David Irving is persona nongrata and denying the holocaust is illegal, if I recall correctly.