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    finally! I am already celebrating Scientology

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx*** View Post
    finally! I am already celebrating Scientology
    Slippery slope....First Scientology, and then some other ideals that are unpopular and someone thinks should be outlawed. Outlawing ideas is DANGEROUS, and it is the first step of many towards total tyranny. If you dont like what they represent, its simple, DONT LISTEN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather View Post
    Slippery slope....First Scientology, and then some other ideals that are unpopular and someone thinks should be outlawed. Outlawing ideas is DANGEROUS, and it is the first step of many towards total tyranny. If you dont like what they represent, its simple, DONT LISTEN!

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    total tyranny? germany is as liberal, as it gets. prolly only sweden and is more liberal. time to get some things going. scientology is a crappy pscho club, that steals money out of labile ppl pockets. and yes, it s worse than the catholic church (pls no comments about the mid evil times )

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***xxx*** View Post
    total tyranny? germany is as liberal, as it gets. prolly only sweden and is more liberal. time to get some things going. scientology is a crappy pscho club, that steals money out of labile ppl pockets. and yes, it s worse than the catholic church (pls no comments about the mid evil times )
    But how is it any different from fortune tellers, tarot card readers, homeopathy,psychics ect that obviously fool stupid people out of their money. Should the law protect people from their own stupidity? And who determines what is stupid or not?

    Id say when it comes to protecting freedom of speech europe isnt all that liberal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern View Post
    But how is it any different from fortune tellers, tarot card readers, homeopathy,psychics ect that obviously fool stupid people out of their money. Should the law protect people from their own stupidity? And who determines what is stupid or not?

    Id say when it comes to protecting freedom of speech europe isnt all that liberal.
    Well, I agree that as long as your thoughts dont harm other people,animals, enviroment or surrounding then it should be tolerated. Yet often times thought don't remain just thoughts.

    On a side note I remember that recently in Canada there were two issue.
    1) A few years ago a Sikh boy carried his ceremonial dagger to school
    The total ban infringed on Gurbaj Singh's guarantees of religious freedom under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled 8-0 on Thursday.
    2)In the same country a Muslim girl was denied playing soccer with a hijab, which was argued that it was "dangerous".


    Kärnfysikern,I dislike calling you that BTW but I remember your reasoning in your PM so I shall respect that, what do you mean that the EU is not all that liberal in protecting freedom of speech? In comparison to other continents?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prada View Post
    Well, I agree that as long as your thoughts dont harm other people,animals, enviroment or surrounding then it should be tolerated. Yet often times thought don't remain just thoughts.
    But when it becomes more than thoughts or speech then we already have laws to deal with that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Prada View Post
    Kärnfysikern,I dislike calling you that BTW but I remember your reasoning in your PM so I shall respect that, what do you mean that the EU is not all that liberal in protecting freedom of speech? In comparison to other continents?
    Cool

    well we have the laws against holocaust denial, not so long ago a high ranking EU beurocrat(cant remember his name) made the suggestion to ban certain internet search words, like "bomb" ect. That such a suggestion can even be made and not imidietly rejected and ridiculed tells me that freedom of speach/thought isnt realy all that important anymore. The entire debate after the muhammed cartoons was also a bit scary, considering how many that was arguing for banning such things.

    When it comes to sweden specifialy and not beeing liberal one example is that we have the stricktest drug laws in europe and that isnt very liberal in my eyes, offcourse for some reason liberal nowdays mean socialist and not liberal ?

    It seems like individual liberty is constantly put second to what is perceived as best for society.

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