So I'm honestly considering running a deca only cycle

[Renesis]

Dude have you ever done a deca only cycle?? I have done 3 of them.. and almost all my friends have done them. guess what? none of them got deca dick. Its like Tai said, its very individual! When i say something i say it from personal experience not just parrot things like you. Also im very intrested to a one single studie that shows that test helps in recovery. thats what Legobrick said.

sigh....

[Renesis]

LMFAO damn that dude got TOLD!!! good comeback, Nightwolf. Didnt u used to have a different avatar or is that another 'wolf? a swedish chick with her ass in the air???

OMG HE GOT OWNED DUDE. What are we in highschool? Is that really necessary?

[Amorphic]

OMG HE GOT OWNED DUDE. What are we in highschool? Is that really necessary?

OMZGERZZZ111 PWNAGE

[J*U*icEd]

lol...

you guys are silly....

[Renesis]

OMZGERZZZ111 PWNAGE

Goddamn you amorphic -.- Im just going to leave now

[J*U*icEd]

sigh....

OMG HE GOT OWNED DUDE. What are we in highschool? Is that really necessary?

OMZGERZZZ111 PWNAGE

Goddamn you amorphic -.- Im just going to leave now

just lets put it this way... all you who don't believe what most of us here are trying to say... then go ahead do ur deca only cycles, and then keep doin them... let us know how ur recovery goes, and beyond that how HRT is going.....

[perfectbeast2001]

I really dont see why some people are blindly defending Deca only cycles, Really there is only one downside to Deca and that is the total shutdown of natty test production. To put it simply you can risk having a miserable time for the next 20-30 weeks or you could add a small ammount of test and still have fun ****ing your GFs.
Not much of a choice unless you are some sort of Monk.

[paulzane]

I really dont see why some people are blindly defending Deca only cycles, Really there is only one downside to Deca and that is the total shutdown of natty test production. To put it simply you can risk having a miserable time for the next 20-30 weeks or you could add a small ammount of test and still have fun ****ing your GFs.
Not much of a choice unless you are some sort of Monk.

Well said perfectbeast ...... why risk it?

[Panzerfaust80]

Right but as thai said test is still needed at some dose. the body can see deca as test but it cant actually use deca as test.

i think they're just saying it doesnt make sense why you would deca only. sure you can do anything but it'll surpress all natural test. why someone would want no sex drive and test will help with gains anyways.

ya and what he just said i dont think test will make recovery anyquicker as any dose of test over 250 mg a week is gonna pretty much shut down all natural.

but anyways to whoever the people like to run deca alone, i dont see the point in doing so, and would hope you plan on doing a proper pct as any cycle.

What is point in doing so? Pretty simple, to not experience as much androgenic sides. Its a trade-off just like everything else in life. Test suppression for less sides. Choose wisely, young skywalker.

[Panzerfaust80]

OMG HE GOT OWNED DUDE. What are we in highschool? Is that really necessary?

I never said he got "owned" that would be super-gay. you said it not me. no offense to all gay members.

and to be honest I wish we were still in high school, just for the ladies though.

[fitguy]

i have never done deca cycles before ,only test only cycles so as to use finasteride to combat hair loss,my experiences were acne specially facial acne,oily skin,my hair got dry for some reason and low ability to keep gains whatever what..since then i was thinking of avoiding test and maybe running deca only,the only use for test on such a cycle is to have normal libido,its not that it would help with recovery cause its an all or none rule its either your are shutdown or not and test wouldnt help at all with recovery its all bull shit,every one has his own reasons behind using test or not and from what i have seen much of the info is just parroting with no back up whatsoever,i am not advicing using deca only but again the use of deca only cycles and its problems is way overated cause you can use caber to combat libiod sites..

[Panzerfaust80]

i have never done deca cycles before ,only test only cycles so as to use finasteride to combat hair loss,my experiences were acne specially facial acne,oily skin,my hair got dry for some reason and low ability to keep gains whatever what..since then i was thinking of avoiding test and maybe running deca only,the only use for test on such a cycle is to have normal libido,its not that it would help with recovery cause its an all or none rule its either your are shutdown or not and test wouldnt help at all with recovery its all bull shit,every one has his own reasons behind using test or not and from what i have seen much of the info is just parroting with no back up whatsoever,i am not advicing using deca only but again the use of deca only cycles and its problems is way overated cause you can use caber to combat libiod sites..

preach on brother, preach on.

[taiboxa]

i just wanna say, nothing wrong w/ cycles involving a single compound that causes complete supression... but its not something that should be advocated to any newcommer. we try to keep all advice given here to be a safe as possible and reach optimum results w/ minimal sides

after you have been in the game a while, know how pct affects you and want to try deca only or tren only cycles.. go for it.. but when starting out its better to be safe than sorry.

[Panzerfaust80]

i just wanna say, nothing wrong w/ cycles involving a single compound that causes complete supression... but its not something that should be advocated to any newcommer. we try to keep all advice given here to be a safe as possible and reach optimum results w/ minimal sides

after you have been in the game a while, know how pct affects you and want to try deca only or tren only cycles.. go for it.. but when starting out its better to be safe than sorry.

Very true, however nothing wrong with sharing 1st time deca-only experiences/gains. (as beginners)

[spooledup]

but the added test helps in recovery...

Wat? It sounds like your saying you'll recover better/faster if you add test to your cycle. Read it close and tell me if it makes any sense.

I recover much faster off an EQ based cycle without test then a Test based cycle.

I've done pretty much all AAS and there is nothing that makes it more difficult to recover then when I add test. Nothing shuts my natural test production down like exogenous TEST.

[spooledup]

if your body senses no test doesnt that tell it to kick in and start making more? why is deca so suppresive then,doesnt your body read it as test even though it doesnt act like test in the system?, and of course ur better off having some exo test ,id never run a cycle without test, my only point is i dont believe theres any more risk at shutting down ur test production permanently just because u didnt use test in a deca only cycle

ok say it doesnt shut u down more, who knows, i was theorising, point is, is there really more of a risk of permanent shut down if u run deca without test, i say no, i dont think exogenous test aids in recovery from a suppressive compound like deca as it all must be gone from the system to recover and for your natty test to start back up

Exactly!!!

[Panzerfaust80]

Sounds like none of us know shit hahaha

[legobricks]

[QUOTE=NightWolf;3792526]First off i did not say im still doing deca only cycles.Ii have done 3 in the past and alot of pepole i know STILL do (with some added tabs) and none of us have been harmed! Second is that your still saying that the test will help in faster recovery, thats BS right there. Your the one with no knowledge at all, you just parrot around what you hear. Im still very intrested in a study that shows that test will make recovery from deca faster. You make it sound as if the body will start recovery imediatley when the deca is out from the system even with test added, that is not even logical because the test will also be shuting you down and the body WONT start to recover until the test is also leaving your body.[/QUOTE]

Ok, you are soooooooo right! Seriously bro, do some research. I did not state it makes recovery faster as each compound is suppresseive to your natty test. The male body needs test tho, whether it be exogenious or endo. Regardless it will be harder for the body to recover from deca only and no test. Test is repsonsible for a lot of things in the male body including mood, well being, libido, all like I have stated. Yet you continue to think I parrot information? I have researched this info on this site and other sites as well as listened to experienced vets and mods who are extremely knowledgable. Emotional sides from being shut down and having no test to supplement what is shut down can be worse then just loosing libido. Can lead to depression and all sorts of problems even after the cycle. I know that from experience, not parroting. So If you continue to think I parrot go ahead, but do me a favor and listen, read, post, get some credit on here before start assuming becuase your friends did it and were fine its ok to "put that out there" Its frowned upon here for a reason here. And also look at what I bolded in your statement, obviously this is information you decided to make up and try and make me look like a fool when you really dont know what I know. When I said test "aids" in recovery, what I meant was recovering from the sides of not having test during cycle like I stated in this post. I understand that whatever AAS you use you are still shut down or supressed...doesnt matter if its test or deca. and I understand it takes 2 weeks from test to clear before PCT and 3 weeks for deca, and so on so on. Please do not assume I dont know anything and I just like to parrot like newbs.

Thank you!

[legobricks]

Sounds like none of us know shit hahaha

Go away.

[legobricks]

OMG HE GOT OWNED DUDE. What are we in highschool? Is that really necessary?

Im pretty sure this means "OMG that dude got TOLD!" when all he does is sit there and agrees with everything. Hmmmm....


And to your response Panzerfaust80 or whatever, I did not get TOLD by Nightwolf. Look at my post closely and read what he wrote. He has no idea of what I know in regards to AAS and misread the information I put down.

[juicenchris2989]

i think an mod should lock this thread

[Panzerfaust80]

Im pretty sure this means "OMG that dude got TOLD!" when all he does is sit there and agrees with everything. Hmmmm....


And to your response Panzerfaust80 or whatever, I did not get TOLD by Nightwolf. Look at my post closely and read what he wrote. He has no idea of what I know in regards to AAS and misread the information I put down.

<SNAP> <SNAP> u got TOLD! haha

[legobricks]

Possibly. The question has been answered. I think that most people here have explained the answer in different ways in which it is read wrong or taken out of context. The last thing we want is people saying "me and my bros did deca only and were all fine!" Careful choice of words should be taken because now lots of newbs are asking questions about it and goin for the deca only. Def. frowned upon here. and a bad idea.

[legobricks]

Well In my opinion you did get told so there.

If you say so.

[largerthannormal]

agreed with lego...

[largerthannormal]

panzerfaust

[Panzerfaust80]

Don't hate...

Not tryin to cause trouble just messin around a lil...i think we all have a bit too much test in us...

we're all good lego just playin bro sometimes text dosent come across the way one intends it to sound, know what i mean?

[Amorphic]

I really dont see why some people are blindly defending Deca only cycles, Really there is only one downside to Deca and that is the total shutdown of natty test production. To put it simply you can risk having a miserable time for the next 20-30 weeks or you could add a small ammount of test and still have fun ****ing your GFs.
Not much of a choice unless you are some sort of Monk.

exactly, this has been said before in the thread and theres no reason to continue arguing about it

[bpm1]

Possibly. The question has been answered. I think that most people here have explained the answer in different ways in which it is read wrong or taken out of context. The last thing we want is people saying "me and my bros did deca only and were all fine!" Careful choice of words should be taken because now lots of newbs are asking questions about it and goin for the deca only. Def. frowned upon here. and a bad idea.

very true, couldnt have said it better

[bpm1]

exactly, this has been said before in the thread and theres no reason to continue arguing about it

+26, im so tired of this thread, im never posting here again!!(runs to room and slams door!!)

[J*U*icEd]

Wat? It sounds like your saying you'll recover better/faster if you add test to your cycle. Read it close and tell me if it makes any sense.

I recover much faster off an EQ based cycle without test then a Test based cycle.

I've done pretty much all AAS and there is nothing that makes it more difficult to recover then when I add test. Nothing shuts my natural test production down like exogenous TEST.

ok bro EQ is nothin like deca... and read the entire thread... test functioning systems recover quicker when exogenous test is used... do some reading, maybe you should try the first three pages of this thread... tai, lego and I have all made the point numberous times...

[Panzerfaust80]

ok bro EQ is nothin like deca... and read the entire thread... test functioning systems recover quicker when exogenous test is used... do some reading, maybe you should try the first three pages of this thread... tai, lego and I have all made the point numberous times...

Yeah this thread has reached its max..

[fitguy]

by now way adding test will help with recovery,it will only help with libido and mental and physiological aspects of the body..everyone has his own reasons so he must look into all choices and the pros and cons of each and decide what suits his needs and goals accordingly...peace

[Panzerfaust80]

by now way adding test will help with recovery,it will only help with libido and mental and physiological aspects of the body..everyone has his own reasons so he must look into all choices and the pros and cons of each and decide what suits his needs and goals accordingly...peace

such as all aspects of life, right, fitguy?

[fitguy]

such as all aspects of life, right, fitguy?

yes but temporarily for the time of course..

[spooledup]

ok bro EQ is nothin like deca... and read the entire thread... test functioning systems recover quicker when exogenous test is used... do some reading, maybe you should try the first three pages of this thread... tai, lego and I have all made the point numberous times...

I read the entire thread and I disagree with you 100%. What you've said makes no sense. Adding test to a cycle does not help me recover any better and only slows it down. How much experience do you have with non-test based cycles? If you have little experience, you shouldn't be commenting because that only makes you a parrot.

I don't need anyone to make the point for me because I have experience first hand with several non-test based cycles and test based cycles.

[J*U*icEd]

I read the entire thread and I disagree with you 100%. What you've said makes no sense. Adding test to a cycle does not help me recover any better and only slows it down. How much experience do you have with non-test based cycles? If you have little experience, you shouldn't be commenting because that only makes you a parrot.

I don't need anyone to make the point for me because I have experience first hand with several non-test based cycles and test based cycles.

same as i do... many cycles i have done without test.... i will never do it again tho cause i know that when i did deca alone... i was lethargic, depressed, and just all around felt like shit for months after a well planned PCT... u just keep doin them... i really don't care anymore... anything i post here is b/c ive had experience wit it... numberous times!!!... make ur point somewhere else b/c the majority of the people on this board and this thread know what im talking about... i could care less if 2 people, one named spooled doesn't understand or doesn't feel the same way about the subject... but good luck wit ur deca only cycles!!

[deezel1974]

I've done a deca only cycle. I didn't have a problem when I was on but a few weeks after, I would get horny, but my dick would not sty hard for more than a few seconds. I'd get hard, put it in and get soft in seconds. And I had no idea why this was happening. And then I found this website =) My test levels went back up but I think it took like 6-9 months before I was bangin like I used to.