Quote Originally Posted by alphaman View Post
Well... I will admit that I used the wrong choice of words, Obama's relationship with God is between him and God. But that's not to say that I think anyone could ever argue that abortion isn't wrong in the eyes of God. That could never stand up to scriptual scrutiny.
So say some theologians. Others say different. Who's gonna settle this theological difference of opinion? IMHO, it shouldn't be the US court system. Or you.
I'll be happy to settle it, though. My opinion on theological matters is better informed than anyone elses, so it should count for more.






Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
I realize that there are different groups of people that believe different things and call themselves Christians. But again, that doesn't mean all the views they have line up with the scripture.
So say you. Which views are "True" or "Correct" or "line up with the scripture" is something that only I can decide (or maybe only certain theologians can decide, or only American politicians can decide, or only the Pope can decide; or only the GodHatesFags.com people can decide).

Get my point?








Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
And again... if you know the Bible, you would know that in Jesus, there is a New Covenant. Not one of Law, but one of Grace.
Theologically speaking, I'll agree.

However, the minute someone tries to live by the old Law and forgets Grace, then they are mistakenly thinking that their "filthy rags" of self-righteousness (as the Bible puts it) are sufficient to earn God's approval & entry into Heaven.

So, the minute someone says that people are obliged to live according to the Old Testament Law condemning homosexuality, as the www.godhatesfags.com people do (and, as I suspect you do), then they themselves are under the Old Law, and not the New Covenant.







Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
All the things you listed above are interpretation issues.
Yep. And these are religious issues that can be (and are) interpreted either way. So, why should everyone be required by law to comply with either Bible interpretion? IMHO, it would be best for the secular government to allow people to indulge their own religious views any way they wish, and not pass laws that mandate either interpretation.







Quote Originally Posted by alphaman
I challenge you to find a verse that could be interpreted as saying, "murdering a baby when it could survive on it's own because the mother doesn't want it to live, is okay"
How about the event reported in Exodus (again, fictitious) where

1) Jehovah told Moses to tell Pharaoh to "Let My people go!"
2) then Jehovah "hardened" Pharaoh's heart so that he would refuse the request
3) then Jehovah murdered the first born son of every Egyptian family, to punish Pharaoh for refusing the request

What's up with that? Jehovah definitely comes across as a sadistic dude; a SOB, and not something to be worshipped and revered.
Of course, that's just my opinion. Other folks might think that sort of thing is ok.