"9/11 Redux: 'Thousands of Aliens' in U.S. Flight Schools Illegally"

[Pooks]

Well no terrorist attacks since 9/11

so it does not really seem to be broken.

Anymore regulation, will just hurt aviation school business' which will lead to higher costs passed to the consumer and also jobs losses.

If we have to pay more for a service, that leaves us less money to support other industries also.. meaning job losses there too..

only one who will gain a job is some idiot working for the gov't whose way overpaid, and serves no purpose to anyone, except to add to our tax bills.

[Hoggage_54]

I was in flight school when I lived in the US, and I even flew near the World Trade Center while touring NYC along the Hudson River. I was a legal resident though

[soulstealer]

If you havent noticed the government has done everything in its power to destory the civil liberties of its citizens but nothing even comes close to have ANY impact on the events leading up to the SUPPOSED terrorist attacks of 9/11 yet we havent had any problems since... makes total sense right?

[Prada]

Well no terrorist attacks since 9/11

so it does not really seem to be broken.

Anymore regulation, will just hurt aviation school business' which will lead to higher costs passed to the consumer and also jobs losses.

If we have to pay more for a service, that leaves us less money to support other industries also.. meaning job losses there too..

only one who will gain a job is some idiot working for the gov't whose way overpaid, and serves no purpose to anyone, except to add to our tax bills.

Well no terrorist attacks since 911, is not an excuse to become complacent. The terrorists sure as hell aren't. I wouldn't apply stricter regulations but have those already in place, in lieu, applied. Id rather pay a little more being safe and knowing that the pilot is not a terrorist or maniac. Also would pay a little more knowing that thousands of people wont die because a plane is guided into a building. Unfortunately it is a reality of today.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

[thegodfather]

Well no terrorist attacks since 911, is not an excuse to become complacent. The terrorists sure as hell aren't. I wouldn't apply stricter regulations but have those already in place, in lieu, applied. Id rather pay a little more being safe and knowing that the pilot is not a terrorist or maniac. Also would pay a little more knowing that thousands of people wont die because a plane is guided into a building. Unfortunately it is a reality of today.

Terrorism is a tactic, not a label. However, we in America twist the word to suit our own agenda. The British called our founding fathers "terrorists," and we called them freedom fighters. The majority of the insurgents in Iraq just want us off their land, out of their country, and out of their affairs.

Unfortunately, it is a reality that we have very much created for ourselves. Our foreign policy is the biggest greivance that the terrorists have with us. Anyone who believes that these people commit suicide bombings because we are "Infidels," "Free," or "Prosperous" needs to lay off the heavy drugs and rejoin everyone here on planet Earth. There are 190 countries around the world, over half have some form of free Democracy, and many are very prosperous. The key difference between those countries and ours? Foreign policy.

[Prada]

Terrorism is a tactic, not a label. However, we in America twist the word to suit our own agenda. The British called our founding fathers "terrorists," and we called them freedom fighters. The majority of the insurgents in Iraq just want us off their land, out of their country, and out of their affairs.

Unfortunately, it is a reality that we have very much created for ourselves. Our foreign policy is the biggest greivance that the terrorists have with us. Anyone who believes that these people commit suicide bombings because we are "Infidels," "Free," or "Prosperous" needs to lay off the heavy drugs and rejoin everyone here on planet Earth. There are 190 countries around the world, over half have some form of free Democracy, and many are very prosperous. The key difference between those countries and ours? Foreign policy.

I wish I could believe that to be so simplistic but I doubt that. Yes I do believe it is our foreign policies that ignite these vicious feelings. Yet fact of the matter is our foreign policies are perhaps not favorable elsewhere in the world. Theoretically shouldn't Pakistanis, N. Koreans, Japanese, Venezuelans, Cubans, Russians, Iranians be doing likewise? It just seems Arab Muslims that have hatred inbred and instilled in them. They are completely oblivious and brainwashed. Hence I am not sure that these arab terrorists would be ever so peaceful, pacifist and dignified to leave as alone IF we were to leave their land. Central Asia and middle east has always had barbaric attitude ever since the days of the Mongols, Gen***s Khans and the ruling Khans. Has the are evolved much since then? No. Also it is for them to look at their own governments if malcontent.

[Pooks]

I wish I could believe that to be so simplistic but I doubt that. Yes I do believe it is our foreign policies that ignite these vicious feelings. Yet fact of the matter is our foreign policies are perhaps not favorable elsewhere in the world. Theoretically shouldn't Pakistanis, N. Koreans, Japanese, Venezuelans, Cubans, Russians, Iranians be doing likewise? It just seems Arab Muslims that have hatred inbred and instilled in them. They are completely oblivious and brainwashed. Hence I am not sure that these arab terrorists would be ever so peaceful, pacifist and dignified to leave as alone IF we were to leave their land. Central Asia and middle east has always had barbaric attitude ever since the days of the Mongols, Gen***s Khans and the ruling Khans. Has the are evolved much since then? No. Also it is for them to look at their own governments if malcontent.

I agree, we are lucky we have the stronger hand, or otherwise they would be invading us..
The caliphs of the past, that attempted to invade europe, and at one point threatened to attack Paris, from Spain.. and had pretty much all of Eastern Europe at their mercy in the middleages. These are good examples of Muslims trying to impose thier will on our culture.
Not to mention endless wars between themselves.. iran-iraq.. afghanistan, iran, pakistan, tensions.. etc etc..
iraq on kuwait.. these are just recent events.

[Prada]

I agree, we are lucky we have the stronger hand, or otherwise they would be invading us..
The caliphs of the past, that attempted to invade europe, and at one point threatened to attack Paris, from Spain.. and had pretty much all of Eastern Europe at their mercy in the middleages. These are good examples of Muslims trying to impose thier will on our culture.
Not to mention endless wars between themselves.. iran-iraq.. afghanistan, iran, pakistan, tensions.. etc etc..
iraq on kuwait.. these are just recent events.

I wouldn't be willing to risk and find out. Even again in the times of G Khan, they didn't just invade and conquer. They ransacked, killed, burned, destroyed and murdered anything they viewed as threatening. Yes it was a long time ago but just buy looking at their attitude and culture one cant help to ponder if they are just the same.

[Kärnfysikern]

I wish I could believe that to be so simplistic but I doubt that. Yes I do believe it is our foreign policies that ignite these vicious feelings. Yet fact of the matter is our foreign policies are perhaps not favorable elsewhere in the world. Theoretically shouldn't Pakistanis, N. Koreans, Japanese, Venezuelans, Cubans, Russians, Iranians be doing likewise? It just seems Arab Muslims that have hatred inbred and instilled in them. They are completely oblivious and brainwashed. Hence I am not sure that these arab terrorists would be ever so peaceful, pacifist and dignified to leave as alone IF we were to leave their land. Central Asia and middle east has always had barbaric attitude ever since the days of the Mongols, Gen***s Khans and the ruling Khans. Has the are evolved much since then? No. Also it is for them to look at their own governments if malcontent.

To be fair the middle east was more civilised than europe during the dark ages. Europe has for a very very long time been war torn and we could turn things around after ww2.

If germany could be de naizifed and japan turned into a peacefull country I dont se why the middle east can become a peacefull region. I dont think there is anyone in the world as fanatic as the japanese where. But as long as they have plenty of oil the dictators and religious assholes will have plenty of money to use to supress the people.

[Pooks]

If germany could be de naizifed and japan turned into a peacefull country I dont se why the middle east can become a peacefull region. I dont think there is anyone in the world as fanatic as the japanese where. But as long as they have plenty of oil the dictators and religious assholes will have plenty of money to use to supress the people.

It took pretty much complete annihilation of germany and Japan to establish this.. plus U.S military bases are still active in both nations.
+ a mutual fear of Communism and the Soviet Union.

[Prada]

But as long as they have plenty of oil the dictators and religious assholes will have plenty of money to use to supress the people.

Well thats where the problem is J. That is why I say they have to look at themselves. Get their freedom and get rid of these good for nothing "feudal system". I mean for the love of god Saudi monarchy is totally just fuc*ing their own people over...yet they want to annihilate Americans.

[Kärnfysikern]

Well thats where the problem is J. That is why I say they have to look at themselves. Get their freedom and get rid of these good for nothing "feudal system". I mean for the love of god Saudi monarchy is totally just fuc*ing their own people over...yet they want to annihilate Americans.

Well we are supporting all that by using oil, aslong as we are funding dictatorships we prevent people from becoming free. How much longer would the soviet union have lasted if they had a constant influx of western money?

[Panzerfaust]

Well no terrorist attacks since 9/11

so it does not really seem to be broken.

Anymore regulation, will just hurt aviation school business' which will lead to higher costs passed to the consumer and also jobs losses.

If we have to pay more for a service, that leaves us less money to support other industries also.. meaning job losses there too..

only one who will gain a job is some idiot working for the gov't whose way overpaid, and serves no purpose to anyone, except to add to our tax bills.

Of course there are no more "terrorist" attacks since 9/11. The goal was accomplished and we are now a strong presence in the middle east. No more "terrorist" attacks are needed for now.

[Pooks]

Of course there are no more "terrorist" attacks since 9/11. The goal was accomplished and we are now a strong presence in the middle east. No more "terrorist" attacks are needed for now.

Cool, I always wanted a vacation home in sunny Iraq.

[Prada]

Of course there are no more "terrorist" attacks since 9/11. The goal was accomplished and we are now a strong presence in the middle east. No more "terrorist" attacks are needed for now.

Oh oh!!