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Also, if I might add.....try to gradually increase your calories as your cycle goes on rather than just jump to the max, maybe add a few hundred calories every week so your body has a chance to get used to the new weight and increase in calories.....just a thought.
Anabolic Member
damn lego..I didnt know you were a damn cheesehead!!!Originally Posted by legobricks
Oh, and I love dairy...I was born and raised in good ole' Wisconsin so thats why im partial to it.
Retired AR Monitor
You bet ur ass! And proud of it too! LoL, but now im in AZ. Keepin it real yo. For some reason I dont sound like im from Wisconsin at all too which is cool.....i absolutely hate that accent.
Anabolic Member
yeah well I grew up just south of ya in Illinois..guess that makes me a F.I.B. (fukkin Illinois bastard)
Junior Member
bigdog, whats up
Junior Member
what about strength gains??
Associate Member
Yep lots of red meat, its like consuming muscle to build muscle.
Associate Member
Ok I just went to the college nurse and got my Blood Pressure taken cause you guys had me fraking out.
She said it was fine but you lot will know better than her.
130/74
What is that?? I know nothing of BP
Iv slowed down the calorie intake and my weight is staying more constant around 210 but the belly has gone down and Iv filled out all round. So good for me!
Does it take a while for Proviron to kick in? I didnt take it first two days of cycle but NOW I feel less bloated.
DUNAMIS ~ AR-Elite Hall of Famer~
thats fine bro
Banned
isn't creamed rice, white rice with cream and sugar?
Associate Member
Cool!
All I gotta look out for now is stretch marks and thats not really an issue anyways.
Just did my first shot on my own there now as my help is outa town.
Hurt less doing it myself suprisingly. Gonna do it myself from now on.
Now off to the gym to hit the legs-wohhooyeahhh!!!!
Associate Member
Yeah I know sugar/cream but I use low fat. Bumps up the calories nicely but looks like thats a bad idea for most from whats being said here.
Suprisingly its (my shite diet) giving me even better results than I ever expected. But maybe Im in for a nasty suprise in a week or two.
"Pics coming to a thread near you soon!!!"
Banned
yeah even the white rice will bloat you like a s.o.b. better off with brown rice bro. stay away from white sugar too. any overprocessed shite for that matter. yeah, can't wait for those pics now. got me curious to see what a fast weight gain like that looks like. happy squatting!
Associate Member
Hope this works.
Not use to resizing pics for this
Ok here I am at 193lbs. Pic was last month but was same weight last week before cycle.
Very skinny for 6 foot 2"
Sorry for bad pic quality but dont know to how else to put a pic on here within the size limit allocated. Sorry
Last edited by BIGDOGIRISH; 03-03-2008 at 04:01 PM.
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And here I am today at 210lbs
Last edited by BIGDOGIRISH; 03-03-2008 at 04:00 PM.
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Ok Iv a mate telling me that the DBol is known for turning to Estrogen and that may be causing the water weight. He suggests taking Nolvadex to reduce this.
Now I know you lot like Estrogen for greater gains but maybe if I just took 10mg a day.
Will it help? What you think?
Im currently taking 25mg Proviron a day and drinking heaps of water.
My face is looking seriously bloated today
Its like a soccer ball today!!
This isnt good. People are commenting! Its getting fairly obvious to people what Im doing.
Weight gain has stabled as Iv reduced calorie intake. And water gain is overall body rather than stomach as earlier in week. But face looks extremely puffy.
Help me!!
Senior Member
Run the nolva if thats what you have. Start at 10mg and see how that goes. Arimidex would be better.
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i dont see anything wrong with that diet for a 1st cycle bulker. at least your getting enough cals. most 1st timers just bump up their calories slightly put on some size and then lose it all after. if i were you id eat as much as you can whenever you can throughout the day. Thats what i did! i gained 30lbs. ul shed any fat you gained after PCT. I did get stretch marks under my arms though so watch out for them!! use cocoa butter on them and they wont form as badly. i wouls use the nolvadex at 10mg a day and then bump it up if you run into gyno problems. for my 1st cycle i had no problems with gyno and i didnt use nolva. currently on my 2nd cycle and im having gyno issues on week 7. so iv started taking nolva. prevention is better than cure though so 10mg a day throughout the cycle is the best bet. this will also keep water down.
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Right just popped 10mg Nolvadex and had my usual 25mg Proviron this morning.
Soon as the bloat goes down Im bumping the calories back up. Im still on 4500+ anyways
Cycle King/AR-Hall of Famer/RETIRED
Im not going into any part of your diet or training. Being that both are all ****ed up.
But bro the truth is you should not be on gear or near it. You dont have any bass to work with and look like you never went to the gym before you started a cycle. Your weight gains are 90% water and will loss them 30 days after you come off. When yo have nothing to start with its easy to gain.
Senior Member
I'm glad someone said it. The first pic looks like someone who never worked out. The second one looked like someone who have never worked out and got fat. This kind of stuff is what gives steroids a bad name.
Associate Member
Cheers guys!!
Iv been lifting heavy for the last 6 months. Ya should have seen me before then!
And on and off for years before that.
Iv always found it extremely hard to gain weight.
After researching roids I now know why. Bad work out technique and terrible diet.
Iv changed all that now.
Should I have waited another year to do steroids - Yes
Did I want to wait another year - No
Have I any regrets about starting roids now - No
Associate Member
Your telling me if I put on 30lbs this cycle that after 30 days I'll only keep 3lbs.
Sorry mate but I just dont buy that. However you are entitled to your opinion so I'll post a pic 30 days after my cycle ends and we'll see. Hope your wrong
100% American Beef
These guys are right. I have been lifting for about 18-20 years. I have been researching this web site for over 1 1/2 years before I started my first cycle, which was last week.Your telling me if I put on 30lbs this cycle that after 30 days I'll only keep 3lbs.
Sorry mate but I just dont buy that. However you are entitled to your opinion so I'll post a pic 30 days after my cycle ends and we'll see. Hope your wrong
A lot of guys here have kept their mouths shut about your diet and lifting. Trust me your best bet is to stop your cycle and do a lot more reseach. I am not trying to be an ass but seriously there is so much info out there that you need to read.
Best of luck with what ever you decide.
Associate Member
Nah its cool.
Im doing roids cause I want to better myself and gain confidence.
Then you guys come along andall over my new found hapiness and excitement by calling me a fat b@stard!!
Not true-Im just a little cuddly ha ha
Well now that Iv bandaged my wrists back up and puked out the strikenine
The flames are needed so we take this stuff seriously but a little encouragement is welcome also
Last edited by BIGDOGIRISH; 03-02-2008 at 10:12 AM.
Anabolic Member
thats all i can tell you, is to use this as will power. try to prove everyone wrong, by being serious and dedicatedNah its cool.
Im doing roids cause I want to better myself and gain confidence.
Then you guys come along and
Well now that Iv bandaged my wrists back up and puked out the strikenine
The flames are needed so we take this stuff seriously but a little encouragement is welcome also
good luck!
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
amen brother^
Cycle King/AR-Hall of Famer/RETIRED
Cheers guys!!Cheers guys!!
Iv been lifting heavy for the last 6 months. Ya should have seen me before then!
And on and off for years before that.
Iv always found it extremely hard to gain weight.
After researching roids I now know why. Bad work out technique and terrible diet.
Iv changed all that now.
Should I have waited another year to do steroids - Yes
Did I want to wait another year - No
Have I any regrets about starting roids now - No
Iv been lifting heavy for the last 6 months. Ya should have seen me before then! You need years
And on and off for years before that. Not the same
Iv always found it extremely hard to gain weight. That is because your doing something wrong. Diet training lifting something or all.
After researching roids I now know why. Bad work out technique and terrible diet. Ok and im sure there is still a lot of room for improvement.
Iv changed all that now. This takes time to learn it all. I have been researching for years and still dont know shit.
Should I have waited another year to do steroids - Yes Agree
Did I want to wait another year - No But should have. Also should thing about stopping and restarting when you are ready.
Have I any regrets about starting roids now - No Im sure not they make you feel great no mater what.
Associate Member
Thanks Gsxxr. That was very helpful
Just curious - are you on cycle now? What roids and how many cycles have you done??
Cycle King/AR-Hall of Famer/RETIRED
Just on a low dose of test right now. Im getting ready for my spring cycle.Thanks Gsxxr. That was very helpful
Just curious - are you on cycle now? What roids and how many cycles have you done??
How many i done? Shit i dont even know. I have been on for the last 5 years.
"Vanity Redefined" ~VET~
test is the DEVIL!
Retired~ AR-Hall of Famer ~ "Enforcer"
picture to be removed at original poster's request.
Edited. Photo removed.
Last edited by Big; 03-04-2008 at 06:54 AM.
"Vanity Redefined" ~VET~
yep, no base and not ready for aas in any way (yet).
its a LONG SLOW process... and haste makes waste
Veritas, Aequitas ~
have to agree. i wish people would actually work out naturally for once instead of just jumping on a cycle.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
LOL Big, someone doesn't have a leg to stand on in any arguement....
Senior Member
Nah its cool.
Im doing roids cause I want to better myself and gain confidence.
Then you guys come along and
Well now that Iv bandaged my wrists back up and puked out the strikenine
The flames are needed so we take this stuff seriously but a little encouragement is welcome also
hows that workin out for ya right now? it takes more than shovin a needle in your ass to better yourself and gain confidence my friend. oh damn
Big, nice save on the pic. hopefully that is the before pic. please god tell me that is the before pic.
"Vanity Redefined" ~VET~
ROFL oh wow...
this is gonna get ugly before it gets locked...
I reject your reality and substitute my own
It already has... This whole thread has a face only a mother can love....
"Vanity Redefined" ~VET~
"Your MOTHER!"
hmm.. that really didnt work right there did it?..
I reject your reality and substitute my own
.......... nope............. i appreciate the effort though.........
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