Eating on OFF days

[ckyass]

Hmmm thx for the reply nark, so how much protien would you suggest? Everyone seems to have different opinions, i was under the impression that 2 grams per lb of bodyweight was ideal for someone wanting to put on the most muscle possible. Everything i've read suggested that, and its what i learned at ISSA aswell.

[Narkissos]

Hmmm thx for the reply nark, so how much protien would you suggest? Everyone seems to have different opinions, i was under the impression that 2 grams per lb of bodyweight was ideal for someone wanting to put on the most muscle possible. Everything i've read suggested that, and its what i learned at ISSA aswell.

Oh no.. not ISSA!

lol.

No offense to them personally, as I am an affiliate of their services. (long story)

Back to your questions... 2 gr/lb is a shitload of protein.

And unless you're ingesting substances which significantly bump protein synthesis, you're wasting your money.

Do some research on what the truly natural pros are doing.

Layne Norton, natural pro & Phd candidate advises no more than 1.5 gr/lb

Although his protein range is .75-1.5gr/lb ...with 1 gr/lb LBM being average.

And this is the guy with a physique that trounces a lot of juiced guys.

This is the same guy with at least one published peer-reviewed study on leucine and protein synthesis. (you might want to check that out..in case you want to invest in leucine for its potential effect on protein synthesis.. especially if you go wtih 1.5 gr per lb of LBM)

He revised a lot of his protein recommendations after he realized how wasteful we were.

I have to admit that while his writings prior were somewhat sound...I was not a fan of him until his protein suggestions came in line with my own.

lol..shameless self-plug on my part.

It's time people stop listening to supplement companies and start listening to their bodies.

Protein in excess will make you fat.

Protein in excess, in the presence of other macronutrients consumed to excess, will also influence insulin secretion... keeping you fat.

re: glucogenic amino acids

Calculate your TDEE and work backwards from that point.

There is NO reason to mindlessly pile food in.

More is not better.

Good luck

-CNS

[Narkissos]

Oh no.. not ISSA!

lol.

No offense to them personally, as I am an affiliate of their services. (long story)

Back to your questions... 2 gr/lb is a shitload of protein.

And unless you're ingesting substances which significantly bump protein synthesis, you're wasting your money.

Do some research on what the truly natural pros are doing.

Layne Norton, natural pro & Phd candidate advises no more than 1.5 gr/lb

Although his protein range is .75-1.5gr/lb ...with 1 gr/lb LBM being average.

And this is the guy with a physique that trounces a lot of juiced guys.

This is the same guy with at least one published peer-reviewed study on leucine and protein synthesis. (you might want to check that out..in case you want to invest in leucine for its potential effect on protein synthesis.. especially if you go wtih 1.5 gr per lb of LBM)

He revised a lot of his protein recommendations after he realized how wasteful we were.

I have to admit that while his writings prior were somewhat sound...I was not a fan of him until his protein suggestions came in line with my own.

lol..shameless self-plug on my part.

It's time people stop listening to supplement companies and start listening to their bodies.

Protein in excess will make you fat.

Protein in excess, in the presence of other macronutrients consumed to excess, will also influence insulin secretion... keeping you fat.

re: glucogenic amino acids

Calculate your TDEE and work backwards from that point.

There is NO reason to mindlessly pile food in.

More is not better.

Good luck

-CNS

by the way... my protein intake personally has always been .75-1 gr/lb of bodyweight (in offseason) or LBM (precontest)

I have gone higher (never lower, 'cept when carb-loading).

On higher amounts all i got was the smell of amonia to my sweat.

No additional muscle gain.

'Fast' and bodybuilding don't go together.

Adjust your diet, and be consistent in that and your training...and you will succeed.

That is my humble belief.



-CNS