Need Help Might Have Messed Up On Cycle!

[SayIWont21]

Ok so unfortantly my dumbass ordered sum gear without even thinking it through and now im stuck with 1 1/2 month supply of clen, bottle of tren and bottle of deca! big mistake once i read more about tren, and now im clueless on how to run something like this and what kind of PCT to use, never done tren or clen but experienced in deca, im in the process to see if i can trade the deca for test but unsure if it will work out, if not, what would u reccommend on sunning something like this? My goal is to cut down a little and lean out and get my strengh back, im 205lbs 5'10" and 25%BF... gear should be in this week and i dont have a plan laid out on taking any of this stuff, can anyone help out on this!!! much appreciated!

[Njord]

Ok so unfortantly my dumbass ordered sum gear without even thinking it through and now im stuck with 1 1/2 month supply of clen, bottle of tren and bottle of deca! big mistake once i read more about tren, and now im clueless on how to run something like this and what kind of PCT to use, never done tren or clen but experienced in deca, im in the process to see if i can trade the deca for test but unsure if it will work out, if not, what would u reccommend on sunning something like this? My goal is to cut down a little and lean out and get my strengh back, im 205lbs 5'10" and 25%BF... gear should be in this week and i dont have a plan laid out on taking any of this stuff, can anyone help out on this!!! much appreciated!

You shouldn't be using steroids at 25% BF.

[repoman247]

Njord is right.....you should lower your bodyfat naturally by a MINIMUM of 10% before you start using gear.
Your best bet is try to get your source to swap the deca for test prop.......if he wont swap it then you may just have to place another order for test and keep the deca aside for your next cycle.

If your really desperate you could technically run the tren alone.......however it isnt advisable nor will it be as effective.

[SayIWont21]

You shouldn't be using steroids at 25% BF.

Well buddy no one should be using steroids period, but they do, and you know why people take them, not cause they need to, but to alter ones physical shape in a matter of months compared to years, to best achieve the body they want through hard work and training with the aid of steroids, so it wouldnt matter what BF% i am, cause wit the aid of steroids, and hard training, i can get the results faster and i know u know this so theres no room to disagree am i correct? please tell me so

[Big]

Well buddy no one should be using steroids period, but they do, and you know why people take them, not cause they need to, but to alter ones physical shape in a matter of months compared to years, to best achieve the body they want through hard work and training with the aid of steroids, so it wouldnt matter what BF% i am, cause wit the aid of steroids, and hard training, i can get the results faster and i know u know this so theres no room to disagree am i correct? please tell me so

There is plenty of room to disagree, and just about all of the educated members here will disagree with using gear at 25%bf.

[SayIWont21]

Njord is right.....you should lower your bodyfat naturally by a MINIMUM of 10% before you start using gear.
Your best bet is try to get your source to swap the deca for test prop.......if he wont swap it then you may just have to place another order for test and keep the deca aside for your next cycle.

If your really desperate you could technically run the tren alone.......however it isnt advisable nor will it be as effective.

look bro i just hate the answers like these, cause they dont even come close to answering my question. like i just told Njord, it dont matter what BF% i am cause the gear i have is for cutting anyways, and why make a comment on you shouldnt take steroids?, then tell me why people take them, well like i answered his comment, people take them cause they dont have to, they take them to, get bigger and stronger faster than compared to doin it naturally and have to wait longer, steroids is like cosmetic, once applied, hard training and right diet, you should gain the body u want quick, so it dont matter really if i was at 25% or 50%, im going to cutt down regaurdless and im focused on the training part and eatin right but no one experienced enough can answer my question!! no offence bro but im just fukin tired of no one giving me the right answer i need, i know they know the answer so i dont know why they dont help there so called "brothers" in this lil chat board community!

[jAcKeD!!!!]

205lbs 5'10" and 25%BF is way to high to use AAS. trust me i kno im the same hight and weight as you and nowhere near 25%BF.. key here is to diet and train PROPERLY and SERIOUSLY before even thinkin about touching anything.

even if i were to give u the benefit of the doubt.. you have no PCT and u expect to cycle with clen, deca and tren? do you even know what those compounds will do if not ran right? have u cycled before? do you know what a PCT?

[Big]

We are here to give people the answers they need, not the answers they want.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

no your just tired of not hearing that answer you want. the right answer and answer your going get from experinced users are goign to tell you over and over again what is being said i can tell you that.

[SayIWont21]

There is plenty of room to disagree, and just about all of the educated members here will disagree with using gear at 25%bf.

bro i know but im always hearing people sayin im 20% body fat and so on and so on and there getting the answers they need, why cant i just get a straight up answer on my subject, and as for the 25%, that was just made up cause im not sure, i figured low 20s and really i can understand why they say dont do it, but my issue is "I HAVE ALREADY GOT THE GEAR" and im not just not goin to take them, already been paid for and im not sellin it either so im just needing the best advise on my "GEAR"

[SayIWont21]

205lbs 5'10" and 25%BF is way to high to use AAS. trust me i kno im the same hight and weight as you and nowhere near 25%BF.. key here is to diet and train PROPERLY and SERIOUSLY before even thinkin about touching anything.

even if i were to give u the benefit of the doubt.. you have no PCT and u expect to cycle with clen, deca and tren? do you even know what those compounds will do if not ran right? have u cycled before? do you know what a PCT?

k listen, i made up my BF% i dont know what it is but i know i dont need to lose that much, just trying to cutt up a bit for the summer and lean out, and all i need is a cycle plan, THATS IT, and nothing else, just a cycle plan bro

[Big]

tren/clen/deca I wouldn't even consider a cycle.
What is your cycle history?
Remember gear last for years, just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it all. Get the proper supplies to run a good cycle and save the rest.

[jAcKeD!!!!]

even if you were in shape and ready to go .. you still dont have the proper "GEAR" for a proper cycle. you dont even come close

[SayIWont21]

no your just tired of not hearing that answer you want. the right answer and answer your going get from experinced users are goign to tell you over and over again what is being said i can tell you that.

ok bro then why is this website up then,.... think about it, SO WE CAN FIND THE ANSWERS TO "OUR" QUESTIONS and only the answers, opions are ok but there not the answers we seek when we post threads

[SayIWont21]

even if you were in shape and ready to go .. you still dont have the proper "GEAR" for a proper cycle. you dont even come close

ok see thats why i just need help on making the best of what i got, i know it aint much or close to making a cycle, but if i have to, i will just do the clen by its self and hold off on the tren and deca for another run

[AaronJM1984]

The reason you shouldn't use AAS is not because your body fat is too high, but...if you knew how to properly train and diet then your body fat would not be so high. Do you understand? By reviewing your stats they simply say "hey I either don't know how to eat and train properly, or I have not been dedicated to eating and training properly". Its not that someone that is fat necessarily shouldn't use gear, its that people without the dedication and dicipline won't benefit from AAS anyway. You have not been sticking to anything for long enough when it comes to nutrition, it's obvious or you would have lower body fat. Bro this is not a flame, I am simply explaining something to you.

[Big]

tren/clen/deca I wouldn't even consider a cycle.
What is your cycle history?
Remember gear last for years, just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it all. Get the proper supplies to run a good cycle and save the rest.

bump for answer^

[jAcKeD!!!!]

your "question" was answer 10 mins ago by both big and I.
not only is your BF% to high to start but you dont even have the right "gear" for any kind of cycle.

[SayIWont21]

tren/clen/deca I wouldn't even consider a cycle.
What is your cycle history?
Remember gear last for years, just because you have it doesn't mean you have to use it all. Get the proper supplies to run a good cycle and save the rest.

NOW were getting close to my answer, as an experienced guy like yourself, i seek your knowledge in what i should take out of these 3 gears, which ones i should hold off on and what else to use wit them, and put the fact that i might get test for the deca

[AaronJM1984]

I'd take 500mg of cardio a week followed by a reduction in 200mg of carbs

[Big]

What is your cycle history???

[SayIWont21]

The reason you shouldn't use AAS is not because your body fat is too high, but...if you knew how to properly train and diet then your body fat would not be so high. Do you understand? By reviewing your stats they simply say "hey I either don't know how to eat and train properly, or I have not been dedicated to eating and training properly". Its not that someone that is fat necessarily shouldn't use gear, its that people without the dedication and dicipline won't benefit from AAS anyway. You have not been sticking to anything for long enough when it comes to nutrition, it's obvious or you would have lower body fat. Bro this is not a flame, I am simply explaining something to you.

ok i see bro but like i said to all the others, MY TRAINING IS BRUTAL, MY DIET IS STRICK, JUST TRYING TO CUT A LIL MORE QUICK AND LEAN OUT AND GAIN A LIL THATS ALL

[Big]

I feel like I'm pulling teeth here, typically by the 2nd request for cycle history I would just move on to another thread.

[SayIWont21]

I'd take 500mg of cardio a week followed by a reduction in 200mg of carbs

so your a funny guy huh? take your funny guy attitude sum where else funny guy

[Big]

Ok, I'm out.
Next?

[AaronJM1984]

LOL c'mon dude, you can't cut and gain muscle at the same time, either bulk or cut, if you have to use a drug, then do an hour of cardio a day, cut back on carbs and fats, and try out that clen

[jAcKeD!!!!]

[AaronJM1984]

man I'd swear he was already on gear, gettin alittle pissed off isnt he

[SayIWont21]

What is your cycle history???

1st Deca/Test
2nd D-bol/deca/test
3rd Eq/Winny/test
4th Deca/Test/eq

1 cycle per year, never to acceed 8weeks, always taking the right dossages and never abusing them

[jAcKeD!!!!]

you dont cycle more then 8 weeks ?

[SayIWont21]

LOL c'mon dude, you can't cut and gain muscle at the same time, either bulk or cut, if you have to use a drug, then do an hour of cardio a day, cut back on carbs and fats, and try out that clen

Funny guy see now this kind of info i can take in and use, see THIS GUY HELPED OUT IN A WAY! and funny guy i know u cant bulk and cutt, thats why i said i will do the clen first, followed wit intense cardio/ training/ diet, then once done, i wanted to gain a lil afterwards using the gear i still have left which would be deca and tren, and yes i know u cant take it together so save me the comments on it

[SayIWont21]

you dont cycle more then 8 weeks ?

nope always heard it was bad on your body after 8 weeks so i never took the chance, why

[jAcKeD!!!!]

nope always heard it was bad on your body after 8 weeks so i never took the chance, why

8 weeks is to short for all your cycles just stated here:

1st Deca/Test
2nd D-bol/deca/test
3rd Eq/Winny/test
4th Deca/Test/eq

those are all long esters expect the dbol and winny.
test, deca and eq all take from about 4-6 weeks to kick in .

[fatherof6]

mine are all and at least 10 weeks, * seems like more of a waste to me, 8 weeks your body is just crossing the peak is it not?

[SayIWont21]

8 weeks is to short for all your cycles just stated here:

1st Deca/Test
2nd D-bol/deca/test
3rd Eq/Winny/test
4th Deca/Test/eq

those are all long esters expect the dbol and winny.
test, deca and eq all take from about 4-6 weeks to kick in .

k so maybe i did them wrong, but how does this help me with my question?

[jAcKeD!!!!]

you stated your cycles.. i asked if u ever ran past 8 weeks you said no.. why?
and i gave you my answer for future cycle. if you think about that its not off topic at all.
what is your question anyway ? i beleive we answered them all?

[SayIWont21]

you stated your cycles.. i asked if u ever ran past 8 weeks you said no.. why?
and i gave you my answer for future cycle. if you think about that its not off topic at all.
what is your question anyway ? i beleive we answered them all?

Nah bro u havent, but im done asking already, ill just take it from here and see what i come up wit thanks for making an attempt to try and answer my question as well as everyone else that failed to answer my question. peace out

[jAcKeD!!!!]

Nah bro u havent, but im done asking already, ill just take it from here and see what i come up wit thanks for making an attempt to try and answer my question as well as everyone else that failed to answer my question. peace out

i dont get it ? your bodyfat is to high and you dont have the proper gear :S

[theincredible1]

bro, 25% body fat mixed with gear isnt just not smart.. its not good for your health.. some of these guys may come off saying something that sounds different, but they are speaking for your health and whats best for you.. in the end, noone will stop you from sticking a pin in yourself other then you.. but I would put AAS on hold for 6 months and see what you can do naturally

[SayIWont21]

i dont get it ? your bodyfat is to high and you dont have the proper gear :S

no, my bodyfat is not sure of, good shape just need to lose a little like maybe 10 to 15 pounds and i know i dont have the proper gear cause of the deca, but if i traded the deca for test then i have a good cycle of test, tren, and clen which i know its been ran before, just needing to know, if i couldnt get the test, then if u wur me, how would u go about doin something difficult like this? thats all