Holy Tazer Batman! (vid)

[godkilla]

i dont know how everyone gets so worked up over this like a buncha old housewives. cop asks moron to do something, moron refuses, cop tasers moron. i mean cmon, its not rocket science. when a man with a gun, tazer and a baton ask you to do something, you do it or your gonna have a bad day.

[Panzerfaust]

i dont know how everyone gets so worked up over this like a buncha old housewives. cop asks moron to do something, moron refuses, cop tasers moron. i mean cmon, its not rocket science. when a man with a gun, tazer and a baton ask you to do something, you do it or your gonna have a bad day.

Remember you said that when you are singled out and treated this way. Typical thinking here, you say that because it has not affected you personally.

Youa re not seeing the whole picture here. At no time did that guy pose a threat to that officer and he in no way attacked the officer. Sure, he was mouthy but last time I checked that is not against the law in the USA.

You know that thing called the Constitution? It protects us from this kind of behaviour, or shall I say, did protect us from this treatment. It's sad to hear Americans say this treatment is justified. They only say this because it was not them and they are yet to be affected by it personally.

The cop should be fired because he is a negligent *****. The Tazer is to be used as a means to protect yourself, the Police are tazing people right and left without justification. I swear they just want to see how it works in the field.

Civil Liberties mean nothing anymore and IMO Americans no longer deserve them since they are not willing to do anything about it or standup for themselves any longer.

I can't wait to hear the BS "I can't do anything about it" speech.


I am usually on the cops side, but this shit is out of control.

[novastepp]

The cop should be fired because he is a negligent *****. The Tazer is to be used as a means to protect yourself, the Police are tazing people right and left without justification. I swear they just want to see how it works in the field.

i'm not starting stuff with you i just have a question that i'm interested in you answering because i can't come to an answer myself. what would you recommend cops do if people refuse like this? when do they have the right to say, use a tazer or physical force to detain them? just curious as to what you think.

[Panzerfaust]

i'm not starting stuff with you i just have a question that i'm interested in you answering because i can't come to an answer myself. what would you recommend cops do if people refuse like this? when do they have the right to say, use a tazer or physical force to detain them? just curious as to what you think.

It is easy for me to say "Well he should have done this and done that"..but the facts are this:

He is a cop and he is supposed to be trained to follow his departments procedures. I do not know their procedures but I would guarantee you that they do not include immeditely tazing someone without even trying to get control of a situation.

This incident was not violent in anyway, the officer escalated the issue by pulling the tazer and then firing it. He is 100% to blame for this outcome.

At no time did he attempt to talk the guy into putting his hands behind his back etc. so he could cuff him to further gain control of the situation (just because they cuff you does not mean you have been arrested and is generally used as a means of control.)

The Tazer is meant as a "less than deadly" force. This officer just wanted to use his tazer and see what would happen.

I did notice the typical BS when he was talking to the other officer later in the video, he starts trying to justify himself by mentioning the guy's eradic behaviour etc... Typical "cover my ass" talk.

My cousin is a cop and he explained to me how they teach them to scream "Stop resisting" over and over again when messing with people, it serves as evidence that the cop is trying his best to not manhandle/beath the shit out of people.

[rockinred]

In this area there is a part on the ticket where if you do not agree you sign on that part and settle in court... there is another part that states you plea guilty and just pay the fine... The risk is if you go to court you can pay more for court fees and still get the ticket.

I don't know how it is in UT, but a simple statement in a calm voice saying "sir, I understand you might not have seen that sign, so go ahead and sign the not guilty box and you will be able to state your case with the courts"...then..."if you refuse to sign this ticket, by law I can arrest you"...then go on to say "what do you want to do"... .

Or when he was walking away, I would have said "STOP RIGHT THERE or I will taze you and then say I am not messing around", that is of course if I had my tazer out in the first place...which I probably wouldn't have...

To me it seems that elementary communication skills on the cops part would have defused this whole situation...

Also, like I said on last thread like this..... the police officers should use their training to prevent this... I have a relative that is a state trooper for 16 years and he has only had to taze a few times...much less for a guy acting up on speeding ticket.

I just hope that whoever posts on here agreeing with police actions that are aggressive in the manner of, "do as I say or I will beat your ass", comments are not law enforcement or even future prospects... you get paid to handle situations like this in a professional manner...this isn't the damn bar/lounge, they have to maintain integrity too.

[rockinred]

i'd also like to add that if all police acted this way everytime someone acts up on a traffic stops...we'd be a bunch of tazed up fools...I think every stop ends up with someone arguing and getting mad... they can't taze your ass like that and say..."see I told you you should have listened to me" wtf, kind of shit is that???... it is called ABUSE of authority....

[novastepp]

It is easy for me to say "Well he should have done this and done that"..but the facts are this:

He is a cop and he is supposed to be trained to follow his departments procedures. I do not know their procedures but I would guarantee you that they do not include immeditely tazing someone without even trying to get control of a situation.

This incident was not violent in anyway, the officer escalated the issue by pulling the tazer and then firing it. He is 100% to blame for this outcome.

At no time did he attempt to talk the guy into putting his hands behind his back etc. so he could cuff him to further gain control of the situation (just because they cuff you does not mean you have been arrested and is generally used as a means of control.)

The Tazer is meant as a "less than deadly" force. This officer just wanted to use his tazer and see what would happen.

I did notice the typical BS when he was talking to the other officer later in the video, he starts trying to justify himself by mentioning the guy's eradic behaviour etc... Typical "cover my ass" talk.

My cousin is a cop and he explained to me how they teach them to scream "Stop resisting" over and over again when messing with people, it serves as evidence that the cop is trying his best to not manhandle/beath the shit out of people.

thanks man.

[godkilla]

Remember you said that when you are singled out and treated this way. Typical thinking here, you say that because it has not affected you personally.

Youa re not seeing the whole picture here. At no time did that guy pose a threat to that officer and he in no way attacked the officer. Sure, he was mouthy but last time I checked that is not against the law in the USA.

You know that thing called the Constitution? It protects us from this kind of behaviour, or shall I say, did protect us from this treatment. It's sad to hear Americans say this treatment is justified. They only say this because it was not them and they are yet to be affected by it personally.

The cop should be fired because he is a negligent *****. The Tazer is to be used as a means to protect yourself, the Police are tazing people right and left without justification. I swear they just want to see how it works in the field.

Civil Liberties mean nothing anymore and IMO Americans no longer deserve them since they are not willing to do anything about it or standup for themselves any longer.

I can't wait to hear the BS "I can't do anything about it" speech.


I am usually on the cops side, but this shit is out of control.

i have been singled out and treated similiar. i dont really think that has any bearing on the subject though. also, your making alot of assumptions here about me and this cop.

but to cut to it, i am not a big civil liberties or constitution kinda guy. i just believe in common sense. now i aint very smart, but i know better than to act like that to the law, and i also know better not to be surprised at the outcome if i choose not to comply with a cop.

[Panzerfaust]

i have been singled out and treated similiar. i dont really think that has any bearing on the subject though. also, your making alot of assumptions here about me and this cop.

but to cut to it, i am not a big civil liberties or constitution kinda guy. i just believe in common sense. now i aint very smart, but i know better than to act like that to the law, and i also know better not to be surprised at the outcome if i choose not to comply with a cop.

Wow! Just wow!

[zipster_dude]

Has anyone ever been is this situation from the authority position?

Has anyone ever seen how fast a good guy goes really bad?

Cops are shown videos all day of people pulling guns, weapons, and making split second decisions. At the end of the day, they go home just like us and say "fckt that up".

Cops and celebs have their laundry aired for all to smell. If it were me?

Well who knows.....but going home to my family is the most important thing at the end of the night.

Simple people....there is a court of law and it is your word againt theirs. Verbal statements are law, act first, discuss later. The dude CANNOT put his hands in his pocket and refuse an order.

The cop is instructed to take the action that will immediately defuse the situation, hidden hands is stupid. Everyone knows not to pull that stuff.

Anyways, its not a popular response, but in this case, I believe the officer was justified in the less than lethal action.

Zip

[Peducho0113]

Remember you said that when you are singled out and treated this way. Typical thinking here, you say that because it has not affected you personally.

Youa re not seeing the whole picture here. At no time did that guy pose a threat to that officer and he in no way attacked the officer. Sure, he was mouthy but last time I checked that is not against the law in the USA.

You know that thing called the Constitution? It protects us from this kind of behaviour, or shall I say, did protect us from this treatment. It's sad to hear Americans say this treatment is justified. They only say this because it was not them and they are yet to be affected by it personally.

The cop should be fired because he is a negligent *****. The Tazer is to be used as a means to protect yourself, the Police are tazing people right and left without justification. I swear they just want to see how it works in the field.

Civil Liberties mean nothing anymore and IMO Americans no longer deserve them since they are not willing to do anything about it or standup for themselves any longer.

I can't wait to hear the BS "I can't do anything about it" speech.


I am usually on the cops side, but this shit is out of control.

IMO it is always easier to make an opinion on a issue when that issue does not affect us directly. You are right we are quick to say this because we were not the ones in that possion. I am not justifying anyone here, the guy should have shown repect and ask what he was ask to do and not refused, the cop should have think twice about his reaction as well. I want to say that in fact we cannot allow police abuse in our society but also as a society we have to respect the law to have an equal balance. I also think that for one "bad" cop we cannot ignore all the good that cops do to keep us safe, our children etc.