Need suggestions to take it up a notch

[kaberle_15]

Overtraining!

Do back before biceps, you are doing the hardest leg exercises at the end of your day do them first!

You're exercises are all out of whack man you need to do the hardest most demanding one's first. You are doing way way too much too.

[dizzy7798]

Overtraining!

Do back before biceps, you are doing the hardest leg exercises at the end of your day do them first!

You're exercises are all out of whack man you need to do the hardest most demanding one's first. You are doing way way too much too.

I've heard the back before bi's thing before, I'll give that a shot. Also I had originally been doing things like squats and deadlifts at the end of my routine because I lift fairly heavy on those and after I got done, I couldn't do anything else. I can and will break that habit now though, I think you are right. I do rotate the order of exercises around, my concern was more to do with # of sets, reps, and my split than anything else.

As far as overtraining, I have to respectfully disagree with you on that one based on my experience so far. For the first year and a half or so I followed a lot of the "don't overtrain" advice and never saw any gains until I came up to a routine similar to this. Since that time, on several occasions when I've tried to back it down the gains stop every time. So if I am overtraining, it's apparently working for me unless there's something I'm missing. The only drawback was that when I first started, my body was shakey and unstable during non workout times for about 2 or 3 months, but that has long since gone away.

[SoonerEye]

I have always had good luck with Mon-Chest-Tris, Tues-Back Bis, Wed off-but I do cardio, abs, and maybe forearms. Thurs-Shoulders-Traps, Fri-Legs, Weekend off, but abs, cardio, etc. Ofcourse I change up my actual routines every few weeks to keep the muscles guessing.