What is proper PWO nutrition???

[Dicknang]

Very interesting post. 4:1 carb to protein ratio seems a bit excessive. I have 40 grams of protein PWO and if I were to apply 4:1 to that it would mean 160 grams of carbs. That's a LOT of oatmeal, or sugar, or yams or whatever.

The only info I could find regarding this 4:1 ratio was on the Accelerade website. I will admit it was backed up by studies etc, but it sounds a little bit like propaganda to me. Still, your post is definitely food for thought.

[magic32]

if the ratio is 4:1 how much protien do you need? so say i want 48g protien that mean i should take in 190g carbs?

Not very much, see below for why. However, after this initial recovery bout, as stated earlier, the more customized (bulking, cutting, weight loss, etc.) meal depending on your specific needs should be consumed, and still registers greatly in the absorption department.

But we're talking full recovery first!
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220by june, my thoughts exacteley...

majic please post a sample shake for us please, because I just don't see this 4 to 1 thing happeneing...

Endurox (Profile: http://www.accelsport.com/product-in...nutrition.html) is a great example of comprehensiveness. The theory here is that an abundance of protein is NOT what is immediately needed, firstly because the PWO meal should address multiple weaknesses, and secondly because it would slow overall processing. Some people are just unable to make paradigm shifts, and challenging the fallacy that we must be deluged with maximum amounts of protein as soon as possible is a deeply rooted one.

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and just to elaborate some. I think what justin is saying that, ya, post workout drinks are thee very best thing you can take after working out......buuuut, not taking powders truthfully is not going to make or break you as a bodybuilder. I agree with him when he sais, if everyone was as obsessed with the other 23 hours in a day, as they are with the post workout drink, alot more people would be jacked. SO again, your thought out and planned recovery drink is second to none, but it wont kill ya not to take it, and food intake for the other 23 hours in a day is what gets the job done.

I'm still wondering about your logic here. When exactly do we want to not do what doesn't kill us, again the same could be said for PCT. But if such things augment our results shouldn't we taking them, rather than pointing out that not taking them doesn't kill us?

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Very interesting post. 4:1 carb to protein ratio seems a bit excessive. I have 40 grams of protein PWO and if I were to apply 4:1 to that it would mean 160 grams of carbs. That's a LOT of oatmeal, or sugar, or yams or whatever.

The only info I could find regarding this 4:1 ratio was on the Accelerade website. I will admit it was backed up by studies etc, but it sounds a little bit like propaganda to me. Still, your post is definitely food for thought.

Everyone is entitled to their own methodology, and strength athletes can go anywhere from 2:1 - 4:1, but too much protein AT CERTAIN TIMES namely, PWO can bog down the system reducing optimal recovery rates. This may not even be a concern of yours, which is also fine. However, there's plenty of data out there, though admittedly, the keywords I indicated yielded mostly ads and related forums so my apologies. But a quick search still provided much, and here's some of it:
http://www.thedietchannel.com/Post-W...Late-Night.htm
http://presteza.homestead.com/Why_Yo...in_Protein.pdf
http://www.truthaboutabs.com/Post-Wo...Nutrition.html

Again, just remember the point of this thread, which was to make you aware of the four primary weakness after working out, and the ways to swiftly and properly counteract them.

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I don't own stock in these drinks, nor am I seeking to make converts.
I'm just a purveyor of information trying to raise awareness!

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Immediately PWO: 70 grams waxy maize starch
12 oz gatorade (endurance formula)
10-15 grams BCAA's
800 IU's vitamin e
1 gram vitamin c

20 minutes after WO: 40 grams whey protein
8 oz OJ

[magic32]

Immediately PWO: 70 grams waxy maize starch
12 oz gatorade (endurance formula)
10-15 grams BCAA's
800 IU's vitamin e
1 gram vitamin c

20 minutes after WO: 40 grams whey protein
8 oz OJ

That's essentially it, minus the L-Glutamine (420mg). So you can put it together yourself, or throw two scoops in sports bottle.

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

That's essentially it, minus the L-Glutamine (420mg). So you can put it together yourself, or throw two scoops in sports bottle.

yeah, I like making my own. I do use glutamine off and on, but it seems to play funky stuff with my stomach lol.

cool stuff.


great post btw