Info on starter pack.

[Phate]

Thanks Mearl , Finnaly a nice guy with info . . I would like lean mass for strength. I hav researched the deca and I know it stays in your system for a long time so I'm kida trying to stay away with that , but I have not ruled it out though. i only get drug tested for minor stuff. I just don't like i beeing in my sytem that long in case i change jobs and have a more strengent drug test .
Did the sus give you any rage . Thats my worst fear along with bitch tits.

There is no such thing as roid rage, if your aggresive before you start you may be more so on cycle but you can always control what you do

i would run a test only cycle for a first cycle for several reasons
1. Your receptors are fresh so a test first cycle will yield VERY GOOD results as long as your diet, which is the most important part of bodybuilding, and training is on point.

2. Since you are afraid of gyno and estrogen related sides, deca is a bad choice for a first cycle as it is a progestrine, let me elaborate a bit on this. Testosterone gets converted to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme, but deca doesn't aromatize to estrogen at all, instead it stimulates progestrone, which can cause the same sides as estrogen, but here's the kicker
Since test stimulates sides via estrogen and deca stimulates sides via progestrone if you get sides which do you treat the gyno, acne, whatever... things like nolva actually can make sides caused by deca worse by making the progesterone receptors more sensitive

as you can see, running deca for a first cycle can be risky especially if you are afraid of gyno

3.Oh yes, there's more, deca is a 19nor and is very supressive so the pct is going to have to be more intensive and thus more expensive

if you want to run a test only cycle i wrote a thread out with all the info you need, just ask if you want me to post it

[moonroof]

Sure post the thread on he the test e. Thanks for your help guys . Sure thing is its esier taking test than jabbing . Exactly what kind of blood tests are done while on roids. And can these mobile web labs be trusted ?Or do you guys have a personal doctor that you can trust?

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Sure thing is its esier taking test than jabbing .

what do you mean?

[fedorrulz]

There is no such thing as roid rage, if your aggresive before you start you may be more so on cycle but you can always control what you do

i would run a test only cycle for a first cycle for several reasons
1. Your receptors are fresh so a test first cycle will yield VERY GOOD results as long as your diet, which is the most important part of bodybuilding, and training is on point.

2. Since you are afraid of gyno and estrogen related sides, deca is a bad choice for a first cycle as it is a progestrine, let me elaborate a bit on this. Testosterone gets converted to estrogen via the aromatase enzyme, but deca doesn't aromatize to estrogen at all, instead it stimulates progestrone, which can cause the same sides as estrogen, but here's the kicker
Since test stimulates sides via estrogen and deca stimulates sides via progestrone if you get sides which do you treat the gyno, acne, whatever... things like nolva actually can make sides caused by deca worse by making the progesterone receptors more sensitive

as you can see, running deca for a first cycle can be risky especially if you are afraid of gyno

3.Oh yes, there's more, deca is a 19nor and is very supressive so the pct is going to have to be more intensive and thus more expensive

if you want to run a test only cycle i wrote a thread out with all the info you need, just ask if you want me to post it

great post.

moon. Have you considered test with tbol as a first? 300mg test , 40mg tbol and you don't have to worry about gyno.